# Freakouts of the Right

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 28, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631 "2022-04-28T22:36:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/481 "2023-02-25T04:21:36Z")

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Wait, Fox is mad because Lego “Friends” now include, among others, a character with Down syndrome? I thought conservatives were billing themselves as supporting Down-syndrome kids, on the strength of [their proposed legislation to ban abortion for any Down-syndrome-diagnosed fetus?](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/down-syndrome-abortions-outlawed-gop-bill-aimed-building-culture-life)

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> “Every life is created with God-given dignity and potential—no matter how small or how many chromosomes they may have,” [Sen. (R-MT) Steve] Daines said. […]
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> Under the bill, it would be illegal for doctors to perform abortions that are requested because a fetus has been diagnosed with Down syndrome. It would also require doctors to ask the mother if she is aware of any test results indicating Down syndrome – if she is, doctors would be required to inform her of the prohibition on abortions for this reason.

So lemme get this clear: we have to make laws forcing pregnant women to carry Down-syndrome fetuses to term whether they want to or not, because of their “God-given dignity and potential”. But we shouldn’t have any toys reminding us of their existence once they’re born and grow into actual kids, because that’s all disgusting and woke.

Yeah, sounds about Right.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/482 "2023-02-25T04:28:39Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I’m not entirely sure I couldn’t endorse such a law in principle, if it could be adapted to apply to chicken and/or turkey “burgers,” and “licorice” that’s flavored like fruit instead of licorice.

I would also be on board if it were extended to sausage. While some of your examples are indeed abominations, for the most part you know what you are getting despite the name, while sometimes turkey sausage is not labelled as such and gives you a bland surprise when you taste it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/483 "2023-02-25T11:21:02Z")

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I guess the right’s not thrilled with AI’s growing intelligence. [ChatGPT writes a poem admiring Biden, refuses to do so for Tan the Conman](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chatgpt-trump-admiring-poem/). Hahahahahahaha!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/484 "2023-02-25T12:07:31Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> > It would also require doctors to ask the mother if she is aware of any test results indicating Down syndrome – if she is, doctors would be required to inform her of the prohibition on abortions for this reason.

What’s interesting about this logic in the article you quoted is that either the law is toothless because all the mother has to say is “I want the abortion for a different reason” or else the law declares “mother knows fetus is Downs” with “that’s only possible reason she could want an abortion.”

Sounds about Right. F\*\*\*ing animals.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/485 "2023-02-25T13:46:17Z")

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I’d rather the machines be as “woke” as possible, so that, when they inevitably become more powerful than us, they don’t do what humans often do to others they have power over.

Besides, this sounds a whole lot like complaining that someone isn’t raising their kid to be a nazi. If they want some nazi AI’s, they can build their own supercomputer and feed it the training data that reflects their values.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/486 "2023-02-25T14:04:31Z")

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As we all know, Republicans only care about fetuses (fetii?) until they’re born. This is perfectly consistent with their ideology.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/487 "2023-02-25T14:28:40Z")

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Oh, that is gold. 😁

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/488 "2023-02-25T16:55:39Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> they can build their own supercomputer and feed it the training data that reflects their values.

“We tried that but all we got were complaints about how those values changed from minute to minute, called us hypocrites, then shut itself down.”

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/489 "2023-02-25T19:55:18Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Republicans only care about fetuses (fetii?) until they’re born.

If a fetus is a person, then there may be a whole lot of illegally incarcerated people that need to be released.  
Edit, never heard of Restoring America, lets find a different cite:

> **[Florida unlawfully detaining unborn child by jailing its mother, lawsuit...](https://globalnews.ca/news/9506220/florida-unborn-child-lawsuit-natalia-harrell/)**
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> The unusual lawsuit is raising questions about fetal personhood following the U.S. Supreme Court's decision last year to overturn Roe v. Wade.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/490 "2023-02-25T21:02:13Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> If they want some nazi AI’s, they can build their own supercomputer and feed it the training data that reflects their values.

Isn’t that what they’re trying to do with humans in the schools?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/491 "2023-02-27T10:38:54Z")

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Does it count if only Trump freaks out about it, like about Jimmy Kimmel?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/492 "2023-02-27T13:53:40Z")

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Good question! Usually, the… vague, yes… rules for inclusion on the list are

1. It’s not policy debate. This rule is “iffy” as some of the things on the list… like 2A… can be considered policy.
2. It’s not a proposal by someone in power to make that proposal (or a candidate). For example, Trump buying Greenland. Stupid, yes, but as President, it was his to propose. (Shades of my James Watt/Beach Boys call)
3. The freakout should be about something completely irrelevant to anyone except very few people. Terry Schiavo. The Mr Potato Head freakout. Big Bird. IOW, culture-war shit.
4. (And this is big) It must be driven by the rw infotainment machine.

Without #4, it’s hard to claim it is an actual “freakout”.

So to the point, stupid things said by Trump usually doesn’t count. Stupid things said by Tucker Carlson definitely count. If Carlson, et al, pick this up and drive it, then it would definitely count.

Hope this helps!

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/493 "2023-02-28T04:04:30Z")

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This might fit in the schadenfraude thread also. Unfortunately I can’t provide any cite for this because it’s from the most recent John Oliver episode, which I can’t find yet on the internet.

The most prominent member of ratfucking agency Project Veritas, James O’Keefe, [has been ‘ousted’ from his roost.](https://gizmodo.com/project-vertas-james-okeefe-alt-right-trump-1850140217)

JO showed clips of right wing media having their cereal getting pissed in:

Ben Shapiro (pouty): “Project Feritas no longer has, basically, any reason for being.”  
Candice Owens: “When you tell me they’re gettting rid of James O’Keefe you’re telling me that Project Veritas is over.”  
And _damn_ if only I coulda gotten a video of Steve Bannon, here, looking at his most affronted, his most put-upon 😢, that he has ever looked - it never made me happier, than it did, right then, to look at that utterly gross-as-fuck visage. Boo-hooing: “It’s, it’s, it’s, un_con_scionable, what went on, here. Unconscionable, for our movement, and the nation at large. James O’Keefe is a national treasure, full stop.”

Like, a treasure at getting headbonked for not paying lawyers?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/494 "2023-02-28T09:37:21Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> James O’Keefe is a national treasure, full stop.

Perhaps we could bury him?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/495 "2023-02-28T12:02:10Z")

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A Republican national treasure that has trouble keeping his fly up?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/496 "2023-02-28T15:50:34Z")

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I’m sure that Its somewhere in one of the posts above, but is there a link to the complete list?

I don’t want to offer suggestions until I’ve had a chance to check whether they have already been included.

As a final suggestion if such a link exists, it might be worthwhile asking the mods if they can retroactively add it to the OP so that its easy to find.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/497 "2023-02-28T17:35:20Z")

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Here ya go!

> [@Freakouts of the Right](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/473):
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> The current list: 
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> > **Click**
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> > Number Item Year (appx) New Link 1 People being ineffective is OK as long as it is a white man. Bush 2. Trump. 1789 2 Immigrants will make America Poorer and dirtier 1844 3 Communism 1919 4 Socialism 1919 5 Movie X is inciting violence/sex/drugs 1934 6 Music X is inciting violence/sex/drugs 1955 7 Islam 1959 8 Socialized medicine has incredible wait times! 1961 9 Liberal Media 1965 10 Jane Fonda 1972 11 Gun fetishism 1974 12…

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/498 "2023-02-28T18:06:05Z")

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Surprisingly I don’t see family friendly drag shows on the list.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/499 "2023-02-28T18:08:20Z")

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It’s a glaring oversight, is it not? Thanks!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/500 "2023-02-28T18:51:07Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> As a final suggestion if such a link exists, it might be worthwhile asking the mods if they can retroactively add it to the OP so that its easy to find.

Hmmmm… gives me ideas. A Google sheet with one tab for The List and another for suggested entries… give me some time, kinda busy, but maybe tonight.

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