# Freakouts of the Right

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 28, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631 "2022-04-28T22:36:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/721 "2024-08-07T16:06:48Z")

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Harley Davidson is WOKE. DEI runs rampant at the company. FOX is outraged.

> **[Culture Warrior Dorks Are Mad At Harley-Davidson For "Going Totally Woke"](https://jalopnik.com/culture-warrior-dorks-are-mad-at-harley-davidson-for-g-1851615294)**
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> The company's desire to have happy employees is ruffling feathers among weirdos

Ignoring that this year’s bash was AFTER the previous year’s special celebration:  
_“In the Fox News piece the writer mentions a huge 25 percent dip in attendance at H-D’s Harley Homecoming event, which takes place at its Milwaukee headquarters every year. This year just 60,000 bikers rode and flew in from all around the country and indeed world, which is significantly down from 2023’s event, which saw 80,000 attendees. Surely this is because bikers are waking up to the company’s woke practices, right? It definitely doesn’t have anything to do with 2023 being the 120th anniversary, and the company pulling out all of the stops to make it a giant bash.”_

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/722 "2024-08-07T16:29:49Z")

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This year was just normal rally. Nothing huge. It was never intended to be huge. I believe Harley wants to do something like this each year and then a huge rally every 5 years. We’ve been doing a huge one every 5 years since either the 90th or 95th anniversary (at least that’s when I remember noticing it). If they think it’s slowing down, ask them to try and book a room at the Harley Hotel for 2028.\*

Also, if I had to guess, I’d guess that the HD riders and owners, on average, lean further right than left. ISTM that’s not a group you want to alienate. Especially over DEI stuff that, in reality, they don’t care that much about one way or the other. These guys made it, what, a month before they started drinking Bud Light again. They’re not going to give up their bikes to help you make a point.

Said another way, are republican Harley owners more loyal to their party or their bike?

\*I’m assuming it’s booked, but I could be wrong. I’m just going based on a few anecdotes I’ve heard from people that, while at one of the ‘big’ rallies, will book a room for the next one, 5 years out.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/723 "2024-08-07T21:57:29Z")

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[And here is why their freaking out will continue unabated, damn the facts.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/conspiracy-theorists-proved-wrong-double-174128126.html) (The link goes to Yahoo.)

> What Do Conspiracy Theorists Do When Proved Wrong? Double Down or Move On.
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> A podcaster said President [Joe Biden](https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Joe%20Biden) was “dying or possibly already dead.” A host on Newsmax requested “proof of life.” And a former Republican member of Congress simply asked: “Anyone else think Biden is dead?”
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> When Biden appeared again late last month after a brief isolation from COVID-19 — still very much alive — many didn’t backtrack or correct their false implications.
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> NewsGuard, a company that monitors online misinformation, identified 19 prominent accounts on the social platform X that in July shared the idea that Biden was potentially dead or close to death. The New York Times followed those accounts to see how they handled news that Biden was alive and found that most ignored it or stoked more conspiracy theories. Only a few admitted they had gotten it wrong.

We are not dealing with rational people.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/724 "2024-08-07T22:00:53Z")

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Schrodinger’s President strikes again!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/725 "2024-08-07T22:39:13Z")

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Like a Jedi, Dark Brandon can shape-shift and appear elsewhere at will.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/726 "2024-08-08T20:57:27Z")

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An article about Harley’s operations in Thailand was just published today.

> **[Harley-Davidson moving more motorcycle production to Thailand](https://www.jsonline.com/story/money/business/2024/08/08/harley-davidson-moving-more-motorcycle-production-to-thailand/74721508007/)**
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> Harley's popular Pan America adventure bike and the Sport series — the Sportster, Nightster and Nightster Special — will be manufactured in Thailand.

> Harley-Davidson opened a plant in Thailand in late 2018, largely in response to a 31% tariff the European Union slapped on U.S. manufactured motorcycles, which in turn was a response to then President Donald Trump’s tariffs on European steel and aluminum imports.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/727 "2024-08-08T21:36:05Z")

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Golly, how could any motorcycle riding American vote for Rump after that…?

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/728 "2024-08-09T01:31:08Z")

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“It’s not MY fault! No one ever told me there can be UNINTENDED consequences! That, and, FAKE NEWS!”

I smell an opportunity for a bumper sticker:

“FORMER HARLEY EMPLOYEES FOR TRUMP”

Sell it cheap.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/729 "2024-08-09T01:35:53Z")

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It needs to read “Laid off Harley Employees for Trump”

“Former” might make the audience think these were happy retirees sonce trump had somehow protected their pensions under his monster umbrella of concern for American workers.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/730 "2024-08-09T10:53:17Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> These guys made it, what, a month before they started drinking Bud Light again.

[Did they?](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/18/food/bud-light-michelob-ultra-sales)

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/731 "2024-08-09T11:48:05Z")

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I was mostly referring to the picture of Kid Rock drinking a Bud Light shortly after this whole thing started.  
The Dylan Mulvaney thing happened in April of 2023. While I won’t deny it hurt, and is still hurting, Bud Light, it’s my understanding that this was a more of a ‘pushed them over the edge’ thing. They were already losing market share and Modelo was likely to pass them up in the next few years anyway. [Here’s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfisB72QPy0&t=99s) an interesting CNBC video on the topic.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/732 "2024-08-09T11:54:27Z")

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The MAGAciles are freaking out about “Tampon Tim” Walz for putting free tampons in school restrooms. Even {Shudder} boy’s restrooms. I suppose it’s to accommodate any F to M trans students still having periods. But what horror! Can you imagine the lifelong harm caused to a young boy if he (gasp) sees a tampon dispenser? Looks like we could be in for a cooties pandemic!

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/733 "2024-08-09T12:08:16Z")

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If he choose to respond to the Tampon Tim thing, I hope he just owns the name. “While I don’t consider myself a hero for something as simple as putting tampons in the bathrooms, if you want to call me Tampon Tim, I’ll take it, thanks”. Sort of along the lines of Obama making fun of republicans for calling ACA Obamacare. IIRC he said something to the extent of “You’re right, Obama cares”.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/734 "2024-08-09T15:59:45Z")

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Besides the fact of some transgender boys potentially needing menstrual hygiene products in the boys’ restroom, have these people literally never heard of the terrifying rite of passage “Being Sent Out For Tampons While Male”?!?

When your gf texts you ”Babe I’m on the bus, hurry up and PLEEEEZ bring me a tampon bc im out and there may not be any at the field trip site!!!”, what’s a guy supposed to do? Nobody wants boys dashing into the girls’ restroom, right? Obviously the sensible solution is to make tampons available in all restrooms.

Will there be some abuse of this resource, in the form of aperture-plugging pranks like putting tampons in the sink faucets? Guaranteed. Is that enough of a reason not to put tampon dispensers in boys’ as well as girls’ restrooms? No.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/735 "2024-08-09T16:09:00Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Will there be some abuse of this resource, in the form of aperture-plugging pranks like putting tampons in the sink faucets? Guaranteed.

And if someone really wants to do this, and you only have tampons in the girls’ restrooms, the boys are going to find a way to get their hands on them regardless. Now, the more convenient you make it, the more likely the boys will be inclined to do it. But still. And it’s not like girls would never do such a thing either.

The potential for abuse does not seem to come anywhere close to the benefit it would provide to someone who really needs one. (Clearly I’m in full agreement with you.)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/736 "2024-08-09T16:12:22Z")

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They’re _NOT_ for soaking in vodka and inserting in the rectum?

Huh.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/737 "2024-08-09T16:13:28Z")

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Um… is that an actual thing or am I whooshed?? 😮

(Also, protip from experienced user: soaking them in anything BEFORE inserting them into the aperture renders them essentially uninsertable.)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/738 "2024-08-09T16:15:54Z")

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[Read it and weep.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_enema)

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/739 "2024-08-09T16:18:25Z")

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Well for mercy’s sake. TIL.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freakouts-of-the-right/963631/740 "2024-08-09T16:20:13Z")

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I just recently noted tampons and pads free in the library. Womens bathroom.  
Its a Good thing.  
To try and smear him with a good thing means they’re desperate.

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