# Fred Phelps and Johnny Hildo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 22, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750 "2007-07-22T15:48:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/61 "2007-07-24T16:32:46Z")

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Oh good, I feel so much better now.  
Phreddy not protesting TFB is a scary, unpredictable world that I wouldn’t want to live in.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/62 "2007-07-25T01:37:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
[The meretricious, cheap, gaudy, tawdry, tasteless, garish, raffish, tacky, loud, sleazy, hypocritical whore: Tammy [del]Faye[/del] Gay](http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jul2007/20070723_tammy-faye-memorial.pdf)

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Most of that I can understand, coming from Phreddy. But “_loud_”? Does Phreddy know the meaning of the word “hypocrite”? Why am I bothering to ask this question?

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**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/63 "2007-07-25T12:49:33Z")

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From the Weekly World News [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8813512&postcount=52)  
Wow **Hildo** , you charged people more money than you were supposed to because of your offended sensibilities.

About the Weekly World News.

What is your problem? Did somebody confuse you for a buttplug or something?  
(I know it’s not much money, but that’s still a dickish thing to do.)

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/64 "2007-07-25T14:09:34Z")

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Dickish indeed. I came here precisely to blow off some steam about that.

**Johnny Hildo** , IIUC, periodicals (magazines and newspapers) don’t get charged sales tax. It has nothing to do with content. You’re not entitled to add on a surcharge for the ones you feel are “unworthy.”

This is one of those rare times I miss the “Putz!” smiley.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/65 "2007-07-25T14:49:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Carl Corey]  
From the Weekly World News [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8813512&postcount=52)  
Wow **Hildo** , you charged people more money than you were supposed to because of your offended sensibilities.

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(I know it’s not much money, but that’s still a dickish thing to do.)  
[/QUOTE]  
It _isn’t_ a lot of money, but I still suspect that it was fraudulent. Certainly, it was terminatable offense - clerks don’t get to just make up whatever prices they want to.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/66 "2007-07-25T15:08:18Z")

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Wait. We hate Larry King now? Don’t I get the newsletter anymore?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/67 "2007-07-25T15:55:28Z")

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When have we not hated Larry King?

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/68 "2007-07-25T16:09:44Z")

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I haven’t. Didn’t know I was supposed to.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/69 "2007-07-25T16:30:38Z")

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Watch an interview or two of his - that oughta help you. Or blow a blood vessel with the pressure of screaming at the television - “Do some research, you fossil! This is Stephen Hawking you’re interviewing - quit asking him how he feels about being in a wheelchair! Quit asking him how he feels about not being able to do any more Superman movies!”

I’m confused about something else - I thought the Westboro Baptist Church was a gag site, like The Onion. 😕 Am I thinking of a different gag church site?

By the way, for a bit of a chuckle, [here’s a link to a Canadian church dissociating themselves from the Westboro Baptist Church.](http://www.westborobaptist.ca/) Heh. I guess they’re not an affiliated church.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/70 "2007-07-25T16:32:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
I haven’t. Didn’t know I was supposed to.  
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Well then, see that you keep your wits about you in future.

😉

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/71 "2007-07-25T16:33:28Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
I’m confused about something else - I thought the Westboro Baptist Church was a gag site, like The Onion. 😕 Am I thinking of a different gag church site?  
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You’re thinking of Landover Baptist. Unfortunately, Westboro Baptist is all too real.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/72 "2007-07-25T16:47:43Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
I’m confused about something else - I thought the Westboro Baptist Church was a gag site, like The Onion. 😕  
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Oh, it’s a gag site, alright… Read the site, and you’ll gag.

Sadly, Phelps, _et al_, really mean that crap.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/73 "2007-07-25T17:34:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
I haven’t. Didn’t know I was supposed to.  
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Google Larry King / rape / made love to you.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/74 "2007-07-25T20:04:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
You’re thinking of Landover Baptist. Unfortunately, Westboro Baptist is all too real.  
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Ah, that’s the one. Of course, looking at the Westboro Baptist site, it looks too extreme to be for real, too. Godhatesfags? Are you kidding me? How can you not be kidding me?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/75 "2007-07-25T21:05:44Z")

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He also hates America, Canada, Sweden, Priests, and something else I can’t recall offhand.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/76 "2007-07-25T21:06:22Z")

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**featherlou** , I have been within arm’s reach of Fred Phelps, while counter-picketing. Before one local church got their individual injunction against the WBC, the Phelp’s would be on the sidewalk just outside. It would be one of us, one of them, one of us, one of them, and so on.

Fred would walk up and down the sidewalk, speaking, pretending he was preaching. But boy was he a potty-mouth! I tell you honestly, drunken sailors would blush at some of the stuff he said, although occasionally he would throw in a couple of twisted Bible verses. This may sound strange, but when he passed by I used to think I felt a little chill go with him. The man was seriously scary up close.

At Pentecost once I heard the WBC yelling at the folks going into church. Many were wearing something red, the color of fire, symbolizing the Holy Spirit descending on the disciples. There was this little old lady, walking with a cane, wearing a white blouse and a bright red skirt. A guy from the WBC yelled at her how “you’re wearing a red skirt to hide the blood pouring out of your rectum!”

You want to know how to drive their blood pressure up, if you ever have to walk past them?  
Well, a friend of mine and I went to a stage production of “The Rocky Horror Show”. The WBC was outside, and we had to walk past them to get to the theater entrance. So the two of us(both completely straight) walked in as if we were a “couple”. I had my arm around her waist, and we made kissy faces at each other. You should have heard their reaction. I thought a couple of the guys were going to bust a blood vessel!

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/77 "2007-07-25T21:10:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
He also hates America, Canada, Sweden, Priests, and something else I can’t recall offhand.  
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Everybody! 😃

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/78 "2007-07-25T21:40:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
He also hates America, Canada, Sweden, Priests, and something else I can’t recall offhand.  
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He hates everybody who’s not Fred Phelps, including his family.

Is there a term for universal hatred? Apart from batshit crazy, I mean.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/79 "2007-07-25T21:41:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Baker]  
Everybody! 😃  
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Yes, that’s it! I knew it started with an “E”! 😃

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-and-johnny-hildo/412750/80 "2007-07-25T21:51:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Okay, it’s official now. Phelps will be picketing the memorial.

[The meretricious, cheap, gaudy, tawdry, tasteless, garish, raffish, tacky, loud, sleazy, hypocritical whore: Tammy [del]Faye[/del] Gay](http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/jul2007/20070723_tammy-faye-memorial.pdf)

Warning: PDF.

Guess Hildo will be there, too.  
[/QUOTE]

The link in the flyer goes to [eodhatesfags.com](http://eodhatesfags.com). It would be cool if someone made that redirect to a gay rights website.

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