# Fred Phelps, f'accuse!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [May 9, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012 "2003-05-09T01:04:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/1 "2003-05-09T01:04:03Z")

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It appears that the Westboro Baptist Church has picketed Mr. Roger’s memorial service:

[http://www.post-gazette.com/localnews/20030504rogers0504p1.asp](http://www.post-gazette.com/localnews/20030504rogers0504p1.asp)

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> A group of about a half dozen members of an anti-gay organization gathered at the intersection of Penn Avenue and Sixth Street to protest what they called Rogers’ failure to condemn homosexuality. The group, which included an 8-year-old girl, held signs expressing their hatred of gays and, while standing on a torn American flag, their hatred of America.

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It used to be that you actually had to be, you know, _gay_ for Phelps to picket your funeral…

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### Author: ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/2 "2003-05-09T01:08:22Z")

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Holy crap, that’s just wrong. Picketing _Mr. Rogers_?! And already passing the hate down to a new generation. Hopefully that 8 year old girl mentioned in your quote will grow up and be able to think for herself.

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/3 "2003-05-09T01:27:41Z")

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Crap. I hate sharing a planet with the likes of those yahoos.

Obviously he didn’t think they had been getting enough attention lately.

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### Author: ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/4 "2003-05-09T01:42:09Z")

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We need to iniate a national DNFTT policy.

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### Author: ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/5 "2003-05-09T01:42:41Z")

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What next on his crusade? He lambasts Wildmon/LaHaye/Reed/Falwell/Robertson/whoever the Religious Right spokesperson du jour is for not being sufficiently anti-gay for his liking?

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### Author: ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/6 "2003-05-09T01:43:09Z")

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D’you think he’s mad at Santorum for not condemning gays (oops, I mean _fags_) enough?

I would check his website, but I have vowed never to give him another hit.

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### Author: ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/7 "2003-05-09T01:47:53Z")

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Actually, he’s quite happy with Santorum. Surprising – I would have thought he’d not find Santorum sufficiently anti-gay.

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### Author: ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/8 "2003-05-09T01:54:00Z")

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While I have nothing useful to add (I mean, obviously the guy needs a good, thorough beating-- what else is there to say that hasn’t been said before?) I wanted you to know that your thread title made me snort.

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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/9 "2003-05-09T01:55:31Z")

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I wish I would have been there-so I could shove him in the Mon!

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### Author: ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/10 "2003-05-09T02:07:47Z")

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K, I don’t really believe in karma or chi or whatever. But does anyone else think that, like in a horror movie, the Westboro Baptist Church has a sickly green glow flowing up it, whilst a dark, deadly tar drips down the walls? The lightning flickers off the windows… I can see it. _it’s all there!!!_ :eek:

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### Author: ![bo989](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@bo989](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bo989)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/11 "2003-05-09T02:08:21Z")

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How realistic would it be to orangize a picket of HIS church?

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### Author: ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/12 "2003-05-09T02:09:58Z")

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Is the pun intentional? 🙂

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### Author: ![bo989](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@bo989](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bo989)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/13 "2003-05-09T02:17:46Z")

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I should say yes, and take credit for being a witty genius. But no, it wasn’t intentional.

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### Author: ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/14 "2003-05-09T02:24:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bo989 \*  
> \*\*How realistic would it be to orangize a picket of HIS church? \*\*

It’ll surprise ya!

The orangiza!

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### Author: ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/15 "2003-05-09T02:38:35Z")

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It’s people like Fred Phelps, that make me hang my head in shame when I admit that I was born in Kansas. There actually are good people here in this state. It’s easy to overlook them in the shadow of Phelps and his ilk. This is one reason that my husband and I will move from this stateas soon as is feasible.

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### Author: ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/16 "2003-05-09T02:47:33Z")

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**bo989** , it wouldn’t be too realistic to organize a picket of his church. No good sidewalks on either side of the street. His church is part of his personal residence as well, and here in Topeka you can picket just about everything but a home. All but two residences in his block belong to members of his family and are connected by a high wooden fence. It’s kind of funny to see the fence snaking along and have to curve around the two houses that aren’t part of the family compound.

Did you know that Phred is now accusing gays of crucifying Christ? Of course his “logic” is convoluted, and the supporting quote is from the _Old_ Testament, but if you are curious try  
[http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/may2003/Week\_620\_5-8-2003.pdf](http://www.godhatesfags.com/fliers/may2003/Week_620_5-8-2003.pdf)

\*\*ZB \*\*, don’t move. We need all the good folks we can get! In spite of everything, this town and state is my home and I love it.

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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/17 "2003-05-09T02:49:42Z")

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Oh wait-he didn’t come, just his family.

I can’t believe they came to MY city! My beautiful, lovely Pittsburgh.

_sob_

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### Author: ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/18 "2003-05-09T02:51:07Z")

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**Zabali Clawbane** , that should have been **ZC** , not **ZB**. Sorry, preview is my friend

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### Author: ![bo989](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@bo989](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bo989)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/19 "2003-05-09T03:26:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Baker \*  
> **bo989, it wouldn’t be too realistic to organize a picket of his church. No good sidewalks on either side of the street. His church is part of his personal residence as well, and here in Topeka you can picket just about everything but a home. All but two residences in his block belong to members of his family and are connected by a high wooden fence. It’s kind of funny to see the fence snaking along and have to curve around the two houses that aren’t part of the family compound.**

Wow… you’re right there at the front lines, eh? Even if a picket in front of the specific place of ‘worship’ isn’t possible, it would still be great to confront the guy. I would love to have words with him. Although he isn’t the easiest guy to debate.

So, have you ever seen him out and about? Ever talked with him, heard him speak?

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### Author: ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2003, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fred-phelps-faccuse/174012/20 "2003-05-09T03:36:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zabali\_Clawbane \*  
> \*\*It’s people like Fred Phelps, that make me hang my head in shame when I admit that I was born in Kansas. There actually are good people here in this state. It’s easy to overlook them in the shadow of Phelps and his ilk. \*\*

Don’t be so hard on yourself, **Zabali**. Lunatics are born everywhere on the face of this earth. I’m happy with growing up where I grew up, even if we did have our share of raging nutters. The only difference is _your_ raging nutter found a gimmick to get his nuttiness on national TV.

Apparently, network exec’s and camera crews like bright colors and shiny things as much as the rest of us do.

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