# free basing \[Why do humans use base 10\]

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-basing-why-do-humans-use-base-10/624105 "2012-06-05T01:43:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-basing-why-do-humans-use-base-10/624105/41 "2012-06-07T17:12:31Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> Roman numerals is not what makes their number system base ten. Spoken numbers going 1-10, 10 and 1, 10 and 2, …, 10 and 9, 20, … 100, two 100, however, makes it base ten.

We need to distinguish between the concepts of “base of a number system” in general and the more specific “base of a **positional** number system”.

Yes, most Indo-European languages including classical Latin use a base-ten verbal number system, even though most of them for most of their history didn’t have the concept of **place-value** numbers. That is, they verbally represented numbers using multiples of powers of ten, but they had a unique and specific name for each power.

The form of a number like “one thousand one hundred and eleven” is base-ten but doesn’t imply place-value. Representing that number by saying or writing “one-one-one-one”, on the other hand, **does** imply place-value.

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Is that how the Romans said numbers? They’d see MCMXII and say, “One thousand nine hundred and twelve”? Or, the latin equivalent?
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> The way we say numbers in the modern era is a consequence of our positional numbering system.

No, our positional number system is a consequence of one way we said numbers. And yes, that’s how the Romans said numbers.

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