# Free college for foreigners?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-college-for-foreigners/86563>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 10, 2001, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-college-for-foreigners/86563 "2001-10-10T13:20:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2001, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-college-for-foreigners/86563/21 "2001-10-13T02:11:37Z")

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Here is a snopes link that deals with a topic close to the OP:

[http://www.snopes2.com/spoons/legends/immigrnt.htm](http://www.snopes2.com/spoons/legends/immigrnt.htm)

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**Author:** ![phartizan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba8739/32.png) [@phartizan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phartizan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2001, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-college-for-foreigners/86563/22 "2001-10-13T02:38:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astorian \*  
> \*\*Does anybody really imagine that top American Universities PREFER having huge numbers of foreign students in their advanced science and engineering programs? That they deliberately shun American students, and give preference to foreigners?
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> It’s unquestionably true that a huge percentage of the top graduate students in the elite science and engineering programs in the U.S. are Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, Iranian, or Arab. But I have to ask, whose fault is that?
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> If you MUST blame somebody, blame the lazy American students who prefer not to pursue the most challenging math and science courses. Or blame the elementary and middle school admonistrators who churn out students who lack the math and science skills to succeed in top graduate programs. \*\*

Absolutely. At my university, which ranks in the last grouping in US News’ rankings, suggesting it ain’t as demanding as Hahvahd, virtually all the t.a.'s in Computer Science are Chinese or Indian, because the American students prefer to leave once they get their BA/BS. Despite the fact that those in charge would prefer American t.a.s

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