# Free Market "Stalinist": Laura Ingraham **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187 "2018-04-10T22:04:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/21 "2018-04-11T14:29:24Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > [Ingraham Crackers is now trying to say a specific business decision is Stalinist](http://www.newsweek.com/laura-ingraham-says-ad-boycott-stalinist-attempt-change-american-society-878642):Eighteen advertisers have decided that staying with her show is less profitable than pulling out of her show Cry me a river, baby. All the idiot had to do was apologise. Well, not insulting an innocent person in the first place might have helped too… ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/22 "2018-04-11T15:31:05Z")
Sponsors have free speech rights too, and if they’re paying for you to speak for them, then perhaps you should consider that they’re going to stop paying if they don’t like what you say. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/23 "2018-04-11T16:11:08Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Cry me a river, baby. All the idiot had to do was apologise. Well, not insulting an innocent person in the first place might have helped too… She did apologize once advertisers started leaving. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/24 "2018-04-11T16:11:08Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Pressuring advertisers is pretty much the only way an otherwise powerless people can push back against harmful media content. Now more than ever, we need to harness this power rather than ignoring it. I’m really encouraged that David Hogg and others are shining a light on what organized action can do. Absolutely. People like to monetize their politics and that gives others a weapon to use against them: take the money away. I take your other points as well. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/25 "2018-04-11T18:00:55Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Sponsors have free speech rights too, and if they’re paying for you to speak for them, then perhaps you should consider that they’re going to stop paying if they don’t like what you say. For the most part, advertisers are not paying the talent to speak for them but to draw viewers to see their ads. They will tolerate a wide range of entertainment as long as it generates revenue for them. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/26 "2018-04-11T18:06:08Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > She did apologize once advertisers started leaving. It was a weak apology, however, that tried to play it off as being magnanimous for apologizing and tooted her own horn about how she had been the first to compliment him. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/27 "2018-04-11T18:22:52Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Ummm, OK, these assholes thought boycotts were A-OK when they had a problem with (just one example) the Dixie Chicks. To hell with her. And her fans. These are the same people who are calling for a boycott of Jimmy Kimmel right now. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/28 "2018-04-12T04:20:20Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > She did apologize once advertisers started leaving. > [@BigT](#): > > It was a weak apology, however, that tried to play it off as being magnanimous for apologizing and tooted her own horn about how she had been the first to compliment him. Yes, and Hogg once again showed that he understands media trolls: [INDENT][INDENT] “I will only accept your apology only if you denounce the way your network has treated my friends and I in this fight. It’s time to love thy neighbor, not mudsling at children,” Hogg tweeted Thursday. [/INDENT][/INDENT] That’s fair. Denounce the _ad hominem_ attacks on children, and he’s good. But of course that would be difficult for a troll. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/29 "2018-04-12T13:31:13Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I’m getting increasingly perturbed when people call things that are matters of morals & ethics “political.” When Nike did a LeBron ad that promoted equality (the tagline was “equality”), people were like “Why does everything have to be so political?” Like, how is the idea of “equality” political? Same thing here…Ingraham made personal jabs at a young man who is taking up a cause for, if nothing else, protecting his peers. Is making jabs at a young man political? No. But, if you say that what you are saying is “political” speech, and you say that believing in equality is “political” then your politics are trash. You’re trash. You’re also saying that whatever party you stand for and its members are trash. > > Even the fucking Dixie Chicks controversy was about them taking a POLITICAL STANCE saying something against a POLITICAL FIGURE and the POLITICS of the country. That warrants a political fight, fine. You can say you don’t like their politics. You don’t want to hear politics in your country music. Your politics disagree with theirs. You’re right. > > If you just have shitty morals and act cattily, you’re just shitty. Don’t try to hide behind “politics.” This, this, this. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/30 "2018-04-12T13:33:52Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > These are the same people who are calling for a boycott of Jimmy Kimmel right now. Yes they are. But that’s different … somehow… or something ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/31 "2018-04-12T13:59:38Z")
> [@steveg1](#): > > yes they are. But that’s different … Somehow… Or something i.o.k.w.a.r.d.i. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/32 "2018-04-12T15:57:12Z")
> [@yendis](#): > > Um, speech \*\*czars \*\*enacting _Stalin_ist policy. > > I’m beginning to think Laura doesn’t know what those words mean. They were already peddling that self-contradictory shit back during Obama’s first term when he was appointing his own “czars” (not that it ever was their official titles, but of course Faux News acted like it was), like the evil bolshevik soshulist he obviously was. Remember ? Fox News talking points have been disconnected, meaningless word salad ever since they realized it worked for Sarah Palin. The important part is not the semantic meaning or the logic of it (and I stretch the limits of that word to its shearing point), it’s the triggering of kneejerk emotional responses to flag-words. It’s basically the inverse of newspeak, or newspeak reached from the other way around perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/33 "2018-04-12T16:22:35Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > They were already peddling that self-contradictory shit back during Obama’s first term when he was appointing his own “czars” (not that it ever was their official titles, but of course Faux News acted like it was), like the evil bolshevik soshulist he obviously was. Remember ? [Not new](https://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,908276,00.html), though. The first “czar” was Bill Simon, 45 fucking years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/34 "2018-04-12T17:16:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > For the most part, advertisers are not paying the talent to speak for them but to draw viewers to see their ads. They will tolerate a wide range of entertainment as long as it generates revenue for them. Yep. I’m sure she’ll have a new group of sponsors within the week. Or the old ones will silently creep back. Bizzy as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/35 "2018-04-12T17:27:48Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [Not new](https://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,908276,00.html), though. The first “czar” was Bill Simon, 45 fucking years ago. Oh yeah, I know it’s been the informal moniker long before Obama - compounding the made-upness of the “outrage”. But like I said, it’s not the \*meaning \*of the words that ever mattered. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/36 "2018-04-12T17:37:49Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Yep. I’m sure she’ll have a new group of sponsors within the week. Or the old ones will silently creep back. Bizzy as usual. The MyPillow douchebag proudly sponsors her. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/37 "2018-04-12T17:53:53Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > i.o.k.w.a.r.d.i. That’s not correct. The ‘o’ and ‘k’ should not have periods after them. If you mean “OK”, it’s usually written that way with no periods; and if you mean “okay”, that would just be abbreviated “o.”. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/38 "2018-04-12T18:08:27Z")
I’m orfully konfused, I thought it oll korrect. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/39 "2018-04-12T18:50:35Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > That’s not correct. > > The ‘o’ and ‘k’ should not have periods after them. If you mean “OK”, it’s usually written that way with no periods; and if you mean “okay”, that would just be abbreviated “o.”. O.K. Thanks! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187/40 "2018-04-12T21:32:23Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > That’s not correct. > > The ‘o’ and ‘k’ should not have periods after them. If you mean “OK”, it’s usually written that way with no periods; and if you mean “okay”, that would just be abbreviated “o.”. It may not be correct by the rules of acronyms, but _iokwardi_ (with or without periods) is the standard set of letters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-market-stalinist-laura-ingraham/812187.md?page=3)