# Free Speech Consequences **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390 "2016-06-03T15:01:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/41 "2016-06-03T18:18:00Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That looked like dripped blood to you, not a splatter? I thought he was hit in the _back_ of the head? While you’re working out the identity of this obvious crisis actor, I’ll just state for the record that I absolutely deplore the dumbfuckery some of the protestors reportedly engaged in. Keep it up, morons, if you want to watch Trump ride into the Oval Office on a velvet litter. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/42 "2016-06-03T18:44:37Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > While you’re working out the identity of this obvious crisis actor, I’ll just state for the record that I absolutely deplore the dumbfuckery some of the protestors reportedly engaged in. Keep it up, morons, if you want to watch Trump ride into the Oval Office on a velvet litter. That’s why you should always spay or neuter your velvet. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/43 "2016-06-03T19:44:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That looked like dripped blood to you, not a splatter? I thought he was hit in the _back_ of the head? Jesus you’re a fucking idiot. I fucking hate Trump. His supporters are morons, and too many of them follow his own example when it comes to racism and misogyny and sheer fucking pig-headed ignorance. But if you’re trying to cast some doubt on whether that blood is the genuine result of the guy getting clocked on the side of the head, as shown in the video, then you’re a fucking dishonest piece of shit. He got whacked hard on the side of the head, while wearing glasses, and the blood shown a bit later on his shirt is a perfectly believable result of the blow shown in the video. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/44 "2016-06-03T21:19:09Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Why are Hillary supporters so violent and hateful? Why does **Drunky Smurf** paint with such a broad brush? I’ll be voting Hillary, but I have no plans to go out and attack any Trump supporters. So, that’s one, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/45 "2016-06-03T21:25:29Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > He got whacked hard on the side of the head, while wearing glasses, and the blood shown a bit later on his shirt is a perfectly believable result of the blow shown in the video. Exactly. I know it’s become very easy to take it for granted, based on past performance, that conservative videos purporting to show misconduct on the part of those awful liberals are manipulative lying scams (the ACORN videos, the Planned Parenthood “fetal tissue sales” videos, the “clips” of activists “praying to Obama”, etc. etc. etc.). But sometimes there actually **is** a wolf out there where the lying little boy says it is. I have no trouble believing that some asshole Trump opponent physically assaulted some Trump supporter, and if so then he ought to be arrested for the attack. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/46 "2016-06-03T22:11:09Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Why are Hillary supporters so violent and hateful? Haaaaa…oh, it’s Drunky. So, he’s serious? I really thought it was tongue-in-cheek, an obvious parody of the Dem Establishment, driving their Priuses 3 mph over the limit while quoting Prairie Home Companion. Seriously, Hillary supporters are 98% of my neighborhood, and we’re wusses! ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/47 "2016-06-03T22:33:31Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Exactly. I know it’s become very easy to take it for granted, based on past performance, that conservative videos purporting to show misconduct on the part of those awful liberals are manipulative lying scams (the ACORN videos, the Planned Parenthood “fetal tissue sales” videos, the “clips” of activists “praying to Obama”, etc. etc. etc.). > > But sometimes there actually **is** a wolf out there where the lying little boy says it is. I have no trouble believing that some asshole Trump opponent physically assaulted some Trump supporter, and if so then he ought to be arrested for the attack. Absolutely - you should always question video from Breitbart, Michael Moore or any other partisan agitator. In this case, however, the hit is seen and the blood is rather obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/48 "2016-06-03T23:22:15Z")
So how many votes does Trump pick-up from all of this? > **[Anti-Trump violence is widely condemned. Will backlash help his candidacy?](https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-protests-20160503-snap-story.html)** > > The violent assault on Donald Trump supporters in San Jose led to bipartisan condemnation Friday and widespread agreement that protesters crossed a line, possibly provoking a backlash that could boost the presidential hopeful. ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/49 "2016-06-04T00:02:23Z")
> [@Algher](#): > > So how many votes does Trump pick-up from all of this? > > [Anti-Trump violence is widely condemned. Will backlash help his candidacy?](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-protests-20160503-snap-story.html) Probably quite a few, I’d imagine. And Trump isn’t just helped out by the violent protestors. He’s also helped by the non-violent but still thoroughly obnoxious ones such as this [bell end](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCmywMin8I). ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/50 "2016-06-04T00:03:24Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Another shitlord getting what he deserves for provoking an anti-Trump and anti-American mob with speech. [https://youtu.be/a4ITP5-efLY](https://youtu.be/a4ITP5-efLY) Are you actually advocating for the violence of Mexican nationalists, and the anti-free speech thugs? It appears that the anti-America/anti-free speech mob was very busy. Mexican flags seem to be very popular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CytcX2uG5-s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEMZSn8iLr4 ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/51 "2016-06-04T00:35:48Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Are you actually advocating for the violence of Mexican nationalists, and the anti-free speech thugs? Lol. No he isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/52 "2016-06-04T00:36:37Z")
[quote=“doorhinge, post:50, topic:756390”] [/QUOTE] That one is particularly awful. It looks like the last thing they threw in her face(egg?) might have hurt a bit. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/53 "2016-06-04T00:39:52Z")
> [@Algher](#): > > So how many votes does Trump pick-up from all of this? > > [Anti-Trump violence is widely condemned. Will backlash help his candidacy?](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-protests-20160503-snap-story.html) I’m not sure he’ll pick up many votes, especially not considering that there’s plenty of blame to go round when it comes to violence. As your link shows, at least when anti-Trump protestors cross the line, the condemnation is bipartisan. When Trump supporters get violent, Trump and many other conservatives, including conservative news outlets, seem curiously quiet on the issue. Of course, leave it to a mentally-challenge chimp like **doorhinge** to both misunderstand the OP and then try and turn this into a battle of links, as if that means anything. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/54 "2016-06-04T00:50:47Z")
Ah, the eloquence of youth. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/55 "2016-06-04T00:56:49Z")
Just so it’s on record, violence against people for supporting a politician is always unacceptable, and the violence shown in these videos is disgusting. Whatever small minority of Trump protesters are conducting and tolerating this sort of violence should stop, both because it’s morally wrong and because it _helps Trump_. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/56 "2016-06-04T01:11:36Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > More a rant, really Given that the OP is octopus, it’s more correctly termed a stupidity than a rant. > [@](#): > > Off to the Pit. The correct place for any response to the imbecile octopus. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/57 "2016-06-04T02:48:51Z")
“It wasn’t a fight, your honor. It was a pleasure”. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/58 "2016-06-04T03:24:18Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Are you actually advocating for the violence of Mexican nationalists, and the anti-free speech thugs? It’s like free tickets to a Vegas show, watching you swing at air. I feel so guilty but I can’t look away. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/59 "2016-06-04T03:27:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Just so it’s on record, violence against people for supporting a politician is always unacceptable, and the violence shown in these videos is disgusting. Whatever small minority of Trump protesters are conducting and tolerating this sort of violence should stop, both because it’s morally wrong and because it _helps Trump_. QFT ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390/60 "2016-06-04T03:38:27Z")
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