# Free Trade Liars **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241 "2016-03-17T09:56:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/1 "2016-03-17T09:56:42Z")
So, I’m done discussing free trade in GD, because there’s a bunch of lying assholes in GD. So, here’s the thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19146219](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19146219) And here’s **bldysabba** being a lying piece of shit: > [@](#): > > And that is why you need to show that trade is driving slavery. So, first of all, I never claimed that free-trade is driving slavery. Obviously, we’ve had slavery in periods with restricted trade. What I said is that I’m concerned about slavery and that US trade power can help to solve that problem. But because **bldysabba** is a lying piece of shit, he/she wants to pretend I claimed something else. Ok, but there is actually a substance of an argument in his/her lying bullshit which is this: > [@](#): > > If slavery is ocurring independently of trade, then by slapping a tariff, you may not help the slaves, but you will hurt the economy. In general equilibrium, you may even make the condition of those slaves worse, if their owners switch to serving the domestic market instead, and decide to squeeze their slaves to keep their own profits constant. Yeah? Listen up you dumbshit, I am opposed to slavery period. If you have a study that shows that slaves are better off under slavery, produce it (but I don’t actually think you have one). Otherwise, shut the fuck up, you lying piece of crap. Because what you have claimed here is that the economy as a whole _might_ be better off with slavery, which doesn’t actually address my complaint. God, you are a terrible person. ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/2 "2016-03-17T10:00:51Z")
Oh, look. Here’s **WillFarnaby** lying out his ass: > [@](#): > > In other words, these societies are so poor that their children must work in order to live, therefore we should impoverish them with trade restrictions. No, the donors to Obama and Congress simply want to be protected from competitors, and obviously nobody involved actually cares about what’s going on. > > I never said there was no slave labor, bud. In fact if there was slave labor, I would take a much more radical and capitalist approach than you could conceive. > > As for the “abused women” I’d have to see what they mean by “abused”. If it involves violence, I would take radical and capitalist action. If it is merely bad working conditions, I would argue as I did for child labor. Hey, you lying piece of shit. I’m talking about actual _slavery_. You are an evil person, who lies through his teeth. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/3 "2016-03-17T13:34:23Z")
Have you changed medications recently? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/4 "2016-03-17T13:40:04Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Have you changed medications recently? > > Regards, > Shodan Do you actually have anything to add to this? Asshole. ETA: Regards, asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/5 "2016-03-17T13:57:14Z")
That much, huh? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/6 "2016-03-17T13:58:40Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > That much, huh? > > Regards, > Shodan Regards, You’re an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/7 "2016-03-17T14:29:26Z")
Any other symptoms? Night sweats? Double vision? Shortness of pants? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/8 "2016-03-17T15:30:39Z")
> [@BrightNShiny](#): > > Listen up you dumbshit, I am opposed to slavery period. A bold stance! ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/9 "2016-03-17T16:06:44Z")
I disagree with you, **BrightNShiny**. I think slavery is bad and we shouldn’t support it. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/10 "2016-03-17T16:08:45Z")
> [@BrightNShiny](#): > > Yeah? Listen up you dumbshit, I am opposed to slavery period. > [@kayaker](#): > > A bold stance! Do you suppose he means it never happened? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/11 "2016-03-17T16:29:51Z")
Ladies (and men with ladybits), listen up! You no longer have to be enslaved by your period! There’s, like, things and stuff…like underwear that you can just get all periody and plastic cups for your hoohah and, I dunno, maybe a type of super-absorbent powder or something? But no more period slavery, is my point. You’re free! ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/12 "2016-03-17T17:03:42Z")
I didn’t slog through the entirety of the linked thread, but it sounds like you’re taking a rather sophomoric approach to the topic—emphasizing the ills of free trade without acknowledging the extraordinarily complicated broader context. Instead, you’re excoriating people with different perspectives and approaches and because they recognize some unfortunate non-utopic realities and problems with simplistic solutions you brand them ‘liars’. (BTW, you really should look up the definition on that one—it seems like you could be calling them monsters, ignoramuses, absurdly myopic or a host of other nasty things, but calling them ‘liars’ for not accepting your point of view makes you look silly.) Regards, Rhythmdvl ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/13 "2016-03-17T17:19:27Z")
I don’t put a lot of stock into U.S. trading power to do anything about slavery. I have lived my entire life in the U.S. and I myself am a slave to love. Slave to love. Na na na na, na na na na. And I can’t escape; I’m a slave to love. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/14 "2016-03-17T18:14:25Z")
Someone is in dire need of taking ole one eye to the horizontal optometrist. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/15 "2016-03-17T18:16:32Z")
HAHAHAAAA! I AM an evil liar and you’ll never stop me! _Does backflip off of roof, BrightNShiny runs to look over edge, but WillFarnaby has vanished_ ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/16 "2016-03-17T18:24:15Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > HAHAHAAAA! > > I AM an evil liar and you’ll never stop me! > > _Does backflip off of roof, BrightNShiny runs to look over edge, but WillFarnaby has vanished_ I’m pretty sure you’re in that pile of broken packing crates. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/17 "2016-03-17T19:33:02Z")
And he scared all the alley cats away, the big meanie. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/18 "2016-03-17T19:48:56Z")
Stands up, delicately removes banana peel from shoulder and tosses aside. ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/19 "2016-03-17T20:27:25Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Any other symptoms? Night sweats? Double vision? Shortness of pants? > > Regards, > Shodan Regards, You’re an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241/20 "2016-03-17T20:32:29Z")
> [@Borborygmi](#): > > Slave to love. Na na na na, na na na na. Batman! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-trade-liars/749241.md?page=2)