# Freecell on Windows 10? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 28, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193 "2019-04-28T21:26:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/1 "2019-04-28T21:26:28Z")
Is Freecell included in W10? ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/2 "2019-04-28T22:03:48Z")
Not by default, but it’s a free download from the app store: [Get Microsoft Solitaire Collection | Xbox](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/microsoft-solitaire-collection/9wzdncrfhwd2?activetab=pivot:overviewtab) ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/3 "2019-04-28T22:06:04Z")
It’s adware. Download it from here instead: [Get Windows 7 games for Windows 10](https://winaero.com/blog/get-windows-7-games-for-windows-10/) ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/4 "2019-04-28T22:06:05Z")
No. It is not included with Windows 10. Microsoft wants you to use their Microsoft Store so you’ll give them lots and lots and lots of your money. They include a free solitaire pack on their store, so that people who want what they are used to getting for free now have to go into the store and download it. That way, these people get to learn where the store is and how to use it. In other words, it’s a pathetic money grab. If the solitaire pack truly is free then it’s no biggie. They aren’t forcing you to buy anything. They are only forcing you to learn how to use their store. However, I have heard that the free solitaire pack also includes ads, which would be a deal breaker for me. I’m not certain of that though. ETA: Damn ninjas. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/5 "2019-04-28T22:07:23Z")
Seriously? They added ads to freaking solitaire? Fuck Microsoft. ---
**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/6 "2019-04-28T23:10:11Z")
Thanks for the responses. My currently used laptop is still running W7 which has freecell, on which I waste a lot of time and love it. M/S has advised that they will stop supporting W7 in a couple of weeks. I’m wondering if I should upgrade this pc to W10 or buy a new one with W10 on it but without freecell and keep this one to use freecell. It has 289 GB free of 421 GB. Is upgrading to W10 now free or does it cost? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/7 "2019-04-28T23:18:29Z")
We used to kid “Use the best tool for the job: Mac OS for graphics, Ubuntu for development, and Windows for Solitaire.” So, hey, M-$oft, would it kill you to include your most-used piece of software? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/8 "2019-04-29T00:39:04Z")
> [@Ignatz](#): > > Thanks for the responses. My currently used laptop is still running W7 which has freecell, on which I waste a lot of time and love it. M/S has advised that they will stop supporting W7 in a couple of weeks. I’m wondering if I should upgrade this pc to W10 or buy a new one with W10 on it but without freecell and keep this one to use freecell. It has 289 GB free of 421 GB. Is upgrading to W10 now free or does it cost? I have an executable called Win7 games for Win10 (or thereabouts) which migrated to Win 10 fine. It has Free Cell and other solitaire games, no ads. The Microsoft one is chock full of ads, but it has interesting things like Daily Challenges and Various contests. It has Klondike, Spikder, Free Cell, Pyramid and TriiPeaks. But the ads are annoying. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/9 "2019-04-29T12:07:39Z")
If you have a working version you like, just copy it to your new machine. Note that for the old MS-Windows included card games, you also have to copy cards.dll. Just put that in the same directory as the card games. The file dates of my games are 2004, but that may have been when I did the OS install. The cards.dll file has a 2001 date. (Therefore probably from XP.) ---
**Author:** ![Carryon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Carryon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carryon)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/10 "2019-05-01T01:16:33Z")
This is an awesome little online site to play all sorts of card games > **[Spades](https://cardgames.io/spades/)** > > Play the classic card game Spades online for free. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/11 "2019-05-01T16:12:26Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > I have an executable called Win7 games for Win10 (or thereabouts) which migrated to Win 10 fine. It has Free Cell and other solitaire games, no ads. That is what DPRK linked to. It’s literally the Microsoft Windows 7 games repackaged so they’ll work on Windows 8 or 10. Back when I was on Windows 8 before the crash, I used it, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/12 "2019-05-01T16:43:22Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > It’s adware. Download it from here instead: [Get Windows 7 games for Windows 10](https://winaero.com/blog/get-windows-7-games-for-windows-10/) Thank you! I had to navigate my way carefully because they do everything they can to get you to download all the other crap they have, but I do have it now! LOL I put something like it on my laptop when I first got Windows 10, but it stopped working. I think all the updates affected. I’ll try this. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/13 "2019-05-01T18:56:22Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > Thank you! I had to navigate my way carefully because they do everything they can to get you to download all the other crap they have, but I do have it now! LOL > > I put something like it on my laptop when I first got Windows 10, but it stopped working. I think all the updates affected. I’ll try this. I’ve found that each new build release of Win10 clobbers the Win7 games. Fortunately it doesn’t touch the settings and history in the AppData folder, so after a reinstall things are back where they were. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freecell-on-windows-10/833193/14 "2019-05-01T23:34:32Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > I’ve found that each new build release of Win10 clobbers the Win7 games. Fortunately it doesn’t touch the settings and history in the AppData folder, so after a reinstall things are back where they were. I’ve had the same experience, but IIRC the executables are still there, and all you need to do is reinstall the shortcuts. Before I figured this out I reran the install file, and even the AppData didn’t get affected.