# "Freedom Fries" for the Fatherland **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274 "2003-02-20T05:19:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SweetLucy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@SweetLucy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SweetLucy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/1 "2003-02-20T05:19:15Z")
I heard on a radio talk show this afternoon that some restaurants are calling French fries “Freedom Fries.” What a bunch of right wing fascist crap! I guess next thing we’re going to be ordered to eat the Freedom Fries for the Fatherland! Heil Bush! I don’t get this whole French-bashing thing, anyway- hell I think the Europeans are right to oppose Bush in this situation. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/2 "2003-02-20T05:35:05Z")
[_pomme frites, egalite, fraternite_ Sorry, can’t do accent marks.](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78921,00.html) > [@](#): > > In fact, beaucoup d’Americans have decided to boycott French products such as wine and cheese, in an effort to hurt the country’s economy. > > [Fromage.com](http://Fromage.com), a French cheese distributor, reported that its sales to the United States have gone down 15 percent in the past two weeks. Some U.S. eateries are no longer offering French wines. And a restaurant in North Carolina has even changed the name of its fries. > > Neal Rowland, who owns Cubbie’s restaurant in Beaufort, N.C., said he decided to put stickers that say “Freedom” over the word “French” on all his menus after he watched France back away from support for war in Iraq. > > “Since the French are backing down, French fries and French everything needs to be banned,” he told [Foxnews.com](http://Foxnews.com) in a telephone interview. “Fry sales have really gone up. People who eat them now say, ‘Freedom never tasted so good.’” Shrug. I question “beaucoup.” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/3 "2003-02-20T05:36:52Z")
Do they order “Liberty Cabbage” on their hotdogs now? ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/4 "2003-02-20T05:39:11Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t get this whole French-bashing thing, anyway- hell I think the Europeans are right to oppose Bush in this situation. With the notable exception of Britain, who is fully supporting Bush. ---
**Author:** ![SweetLucy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@SweetLucy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SweetLucy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/5 "2003-02-20T05:39:18Z")
Are they going to ban French (oops, I mean Freedom) kissing now? Yikes! Or French manicures? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/6 "2003-02-20T05:47:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SweetLucy \* > \*\*I heard on a radio talk show this afternoon that some restaurants are calling French fries “Freedom Fries.” > What a bunch of right wing fascist crap! \*\* Crap? Ok, I’ll give you that one. Fascist? Uh, I don’t think so. > [@](#): > > \*\* > I guess next thing we’re going to be ordered to eat the Freedom Fries for the Fatherland! Heil Bush! \*\* Ordered by who? Did the government order the word “French” to be removed from menus and signs? > [@](#): > > \*\* > I don’t get this whole French-bashing thing, anyway- hell I think the Europeans are right to oppose Bush in this situation. \*\* You might think France is right to oppose Bush but how about the way France treats other countries? Did you see how much of an asshole Chirac was behaving towards nations who agreed with the US on the war with Iraq? Marc ---
**Author:** ![Protesilaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Protesilaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Protesilaus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/7 "2003-02-20T05:49:08Z")
“Freedom kissing”, huh? I like the sound of that. Just imagine: “Ah, c’mon babe, don’t you love your country?” ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/8 "2003-02-20T05:53:38Z")
> [@](#): > > You might think France is right to oppose Bush but how about the way France treats other countries? Did you see how much of an asshole Chirac was behaving towards nations who agreed with the US on the war with Iraq? Yup. He said that siding with us might negatively impact their chances for joining the EU later…which nicely underlines a point that another poster (maybe **Sam Stone**?) had. The European opposition for this war is coming from a resentment of the overwhelming international power the US has right now. I say we start planting rumors that we’re going to ask if Bulgaria and Rumania want to the first European representatives of the US. That should give Chirac something to scream about. ---
**Author:** ![hazel-rah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/73ab20/32.png) [@hazel-rah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hazel-rah)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/9 "2003-02-20T06:04:57Z")
As somebody who likes french fries, I find this offensive. “Freedom Fries” is PC crap. We should all go visit Cubbie’s and try to order some _Potatoes Hussein_. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/10 "2003-02-20T06:23:28Z")
I’ll have a large order of Freedom Fries, a Fuck Bush burger, and a No Blood for Oil shake, please. ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/11 "2003-02-20T06:28:11Z")
Do you want a “Kick his ass and get the gas” bumper sticker with that? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/12 "2003-02-20T06:30:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Do they order “Liberty Cabbage” on their hotdogs now? \*\* And what do we call bratwurst now? “Liberty sausage?” “Freedom Weiners?” ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/13 "2003-02-20T06:30:38Z")
Man, you know what I could really go for right now? Some dut-, er, some middle-Pennsylvanian apple pie. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/14 "2003-02-20T06:31:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\*And what do we call bratwurst now? “Liberty sausage?” “Freedom Weiners?” \*\* ‘Freedom Weiner’ is great name for a ba…N’er mind. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/15 "2003-02-20T06:32:02Z")
Eh, if this war was about oil, why wouldn’t we just buy it off Saddam? “Y’know, Saddam, if you agree to up production, tap a few of those northern fields we know you have, maybe allow Amoco and Shell to do a little exploration, we might see our way clear of calling off the UN.” Keeping him in power would be the best thing we could do _if it was about the oil._ After all, who burned the fields the last time we fought? (And if anyone says The US I’m gonna kick ass.) ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/16 "2003-02-20T06:36:36Z")
Saddam set fire to his own oil fields, that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/17 "2003-02-20T06:37:59Z")
Hmm… my last post sounded a bit sarcastic, but there was no sarcasm intended. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/18 "2003-02-20T06:38:38Z")
I’ll say it once. It’s flat out racist. There’s simply no other description for it. The people hurt by economic dropoff may or may not have any opinion on the war at all, or any control over their government’s position. To not buy products based on a scattershot association of nationality and ethnicity with a particular position by the government is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/19 "2003-02-20T06:40:31Z")
Sigh. Where’s the craftsmanship? Where’s the historical perspective? Where’s the love of the grotesque and the feeling of superiority, combined with a pop culture reference? I suggest an alternate header. It’s offensive, it’s on point, it’s stolen from National Lampoon: “Arbies Macht Fries”. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274/20 "2003-02-20T06:41:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DoctorJ \* > \*\*I’ll have a large order of Freedom Fries, a Fuck Bush burger, and a No Blood for Oil shake, please. \*\* Hmm, if the last war with Saddam was for oil that means that it was: _shorter_ than the wars for religion (the Crusades), territorial expansion (World Wars I & II), and ideology (Vietnam) and cost _fewer_ lives than _any_ of those wars. So tell me again why war for oil is such a bad thing as wars go? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-for-the-fatherland/156274.md?page=2)