# "Freedom Fries?"  Give me a fucking break!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 11, 2003, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644 "2003-03-11T20:18:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/41 "2003-03-12T03:03:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by epolo \*  
> **I like my Freedom Fries best when they’re served alongside a good Hot Dog with Victory Cabbage.**

Spectacular, **epolo**. Very smooth.

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**Author:** ![RobbieFal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c5a1d2/32.png) [@RobbieFal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobbieFal)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/42 "2003-03-12T03:03:53Z")

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This is double plus ungood!

Congress will soon confront France with the “I know you are but what am I act of 2003”.

😉

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/43 "2003-03-12T03:08:23Z")

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Last year I visited England and drove through the chunnel to Freedonia. The Freedomites have such a rich history of fine culture and art. Every morning we would sit at an open air cafe across from a Freedom Foreign Legion recruiting station and eat cheese and Free Bread. Although some of the local Freebies (pardon my Freedomese) could be quite rude! But, all in all, a good time was had by all, Viva La Freed!

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/44 "2003-03-12T03:10:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elucidator \*  
> \*\*Me and the other one forgive you. \*\*

Hey, speak for yourself! Grrrrrrrr!

Ok, I forgive you too.

This story was dumb enough that I felt the need to update my website when I heard it. 😃

Oh, and **DanielWithrow** , that was the funniest damn thing I’ve read all week. Merci! 😃

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/45 "2003-03-12T03:21:51Z")

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Can’t beat you guys to anything!

The Onion is going to have to go out of business. Life has become a parody of itself.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/46 "2003-03-12T03:34:14Z")

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The USA is turning into a very bad joke.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/47 "2003-03-12T03:47:04Z")

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Its a con job. They’re playing on our patriotism in a “bait and switch” manuever.

“Those darn French! How dare they say we can’t start a war! That does it! I’m all for war now!”

Don’t know which is worse, that they think we are that stupid or that they may be right.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/48 "2003-03-12T04:38:43Z")

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Another name change we need: the House of Not In the Least Bit Representatives, We Don’t Know _Where_ These People Came From, Honest.

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**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/49 "2003-03-12T04:48:43Z")

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oh well, at least with idiots in power, the absurd aspect of life is amusing. (Emerging) dictatorships such as ours always are best at negating the need for parody, by doing it themselves unintentionally.

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/50 "2003-03-12T05:00:55Z")

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Well to take a different and unpopoular tact, the French are a bunch of wimps that wouldn’t put up a fight against a new born kitten.

France refuses to see Iraq as a threat. At the same time who would bother with taking over France? France is one of the most useless countries on the face of the planet. The only thing France produces is over rated food and questionable wine. Oops, I almost forgot, really bad actors.

France’s political stance is irrelevant. The only reason France still exists is because the US came in and saved France from Hitler.

Slee

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/51 "2003-03-12T05:11:40Z")

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Very fashionable, **sleestak**. I knew someone would come in here and thrash the French, just for the halibut. It _is_ all the rage these days, you know! :rolleyes:

So, you think that government officials renaming their food and covering it in a press conference is a good use of their time, then?

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**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/52 "2003-03-12T05:11:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by badmana \*  
> \*\*Sorry, I dunno why I refered to texans there…sheesh. I’m sorry to any sane texans. \*\*

I am tempted to propose an corollary amendment to “Godwin’s Law” that states that any thread denouncing general redneck stupidity be decalred null and void once the State of Texas or Texans are invoked - provided that the redneck stupidity not have **shit** to do with the majority of Texas’ 21 million inhabitants.

Most people are apt to call their deep fried hunks of potato either “taters” or “papitas” down here anyway.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/53 "2003-03-12T06:22:16Z")

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**sleestak** , I know you’re not a troll. A troll tries to get a rise out of people by saying outrageous things he doesn’t actually believe. After reading your posts, though, I’m convinced that you’re dumb enough to think what you’re writing is true.

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**Author:** ![Forbin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Forbin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Forbin)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/54 "2003-03-12T06:41:35Z")

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Okay, I’ll give you your break.  
You deserve it.  
Ready?  
I will continue to refer to _pommes frittes_ by their more common name, french fries.  
I hope this refreshes you.

You’re right. This business of renaming french fries is idiotic. It’s hard to believe people can be this stupid.  
I’m reminded of children, and their silly, immature behaivior around other children they don’t like.  
:rolleyes:  
Puerile.  
Petulant.  
What fucking bullshit!

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**Author:** ![Speaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Speaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/55 "2003-03-12T07:06:49Z")

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sleestak  
The point isn’t whether France would put up a fight against a kitten or anything else, we are, after all, asking them to pick a fight. The looming war in Iraq is a war of aggression. The US wants to start a war.

France doesn’t see a threat to Iraq, because there isn’t one.

Maybe, you think that France’s political stance is irrelevant because they are not a super power. Probably your idea of a relevant political stance is what used to be known as “Gunboat Diplomacy.” Practiced a long time ago, and recently enjoying a comeback in theaters in Baghdad.

The Allied Powers drove the German army out of France. People from many countries liberated France. Besides, if someone saved your house from burning down, would you take them to a bar and buy them a drink and then help them beat up that loud mouthed asshole who sits with his stool sticking out where it gets in everyone’s way? Yes? Its good to be consistent.

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**Author:** ![Skorch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Skorch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skorch)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/56 "2003-03-12T08:46:39Z")

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Yes I agree. Freedom fries are dumb as fuck, but anything to take the French word out of it I reckon. It is all propaganda shit anyway.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/57 "2003-03-12T08:55:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sleestak \*  
> \*\*  
> France’s political stance is irrelevant. The only reason France still exists is because the US came in and saved France from Hitler.
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> Slee \*\*

And the only reason the US still exists is because France came in and saved the US from England.\*

By your logic you’re at the very least even, so France can do what it wants.

\*two can play at the oversimplification game!

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**Author:** ![todd33rpm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@todd33rpm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/todd33rpm)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/58 "2003-03-12T11:39:35Z")

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This was too good to just let go by:

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*From Ministry of Truth:
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> Thought criminal Ronald McDonald deemed unperson, rectify history to show Hamburglar as sole spokesclown for Victory Burgers (McDonald’s deemed conterrevolutionary). \*\*

Do you have _any_ idea how hard it is to go read the news on the radio with a straight face when confronted with that?

Thanks for making my day, **gobear**!

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**Author:** ![auRa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@auRa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auRa)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/59 "2003-03-12T12:48:47Z")

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I can imagine the French government’s reaction.

[sarcastic Frenchman]  
Ah NON! Qu’est-ce qu’ils ont FAIT? Ils ont changé des NOMS? Alors, maintenant nous n’avons pas de CHOIX! Nous devons SUPPORTER la GUERRE! Si non, les americains ne mangeraient JAMAIS PLUS des “French fries!” Oh! Quelle malheure! Je vais PLEURIR! Oh! Regardez les larmes![/sarcastic Frenchman]

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-fries-give-me-a-fucking-break/160644/60 "2003-03-12T13:06:01Z")

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Someone elected these people, yet a very high percentage of the population did not bother to vote. I’ll be interested to see if the voter turnout at the next federal election increases,and which way the vote goes. One can only go so far in excusing away this sort of nonsense as not being reflective of the nation. My concern is that it may indeed reflective.

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