# Freedom Tower, Part ??
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-tower-part/373076
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [September 17, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-tower-part/373076 "2006-09-17T16:09:57Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-tower-part/373076/1 "2006-09-17T16:09:57Z")
It’s been some time since we’ve had a FT thread, but there are some recent developments. [U.S. and State Plan to Occupy Freedom Tower](http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/17/nyregion/nyregionspecial3/17freedom.html?ex=1316145600&en=f0014e7948242d1f&ei=5089&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss) is the headline of the _NY Times_ article.
This strikes me as such a bad idea on so many levels. How may I count the ways?
1. The **height** offends me. 1776 feet. It screams out, "we’re building this place for purely symbolic political reasons. We don’t care about marketplace and economic realities.
2. The blithe assurances that the building “is safe”. According to the [Freedom Tower](http://www.thefreedomtower.com/) website:
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> …like 7 World Trade Centre, its 69 office floors will also sit on an impregnable base - this time purely for security reasons.
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> The tower’s steel frame is interconnected with beams and columns to redistribute loads in the event of an impact or blast so it remains standing, enabling occupants to leave safely
IIRC, 7 World Trade Centre collapsed on 9/11 without even being hit, excuse me for not being reassured.
1. That the government stepped in at the last minute and bought into it, because the private sector would have let it go belly up and die.
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> When the Port Authority agreed in April to take over responsibility for building the $2.3 billion tower from the developer Larry A. Silverstein, it set several conditions. The authority, which leased the property to Mr. Silverstein, was seeking a viable financial plan, including signed leases for 1 million square feet in the Freedom Tower by the time its board meets on Thursday.
1. This building is going to set some kind of record as “most often phycically attacked location in the Western Hemisphere”.
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-tower-part/373076/2 "2006-09-17T16:37:09Z")
> [@Boyo Jim](#):
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> This strikes me as such a bad idea on so many levels. How may I count the ways?
No one problem counselled with you because you probably aren’t really in a position to know whether it’s good or bad ideas.
> [@Boyo Jim](#):
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> 1. The **height** offends me. 1776 feet. It screams out, "we’re building this place for purely symbolic political reasons. We don’t care about marketplace and economic realities.
The economic realities is that the location is the site of some of the most valuable office space in the country. They are going to build a big freakin bulding there to replace the ones that were destroyed. And what the hell, if you’re going to make a 1700+ foot tall building why not make it a height that has some significance.
> [@Boyo Jim](#):
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> 1. The blithe assurances that the building “is safe”. According to the [Freedom Tower](http://www.thefreedomtower.com/) website:
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> IIRC, 7 World Trade Centre collapsed on 9/11 without even being hit, excuse me for not being reassured.
IIRC, 7 WTC was destroyed by controlled demolition charges planted by the Jews but that’s neither here nor there.
The term “unblowupable” is thrown around a lot these days, but the point is that the new buildings will be more secure against the type of attacks that destroyed the first one.
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> 1. That the government stepped in at the last minute and bought into it, because the private sector would have let it go belly up and die.
Doubtfull.
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> 1. This building is going to set some kind of record as “most often phycically attacked location in the Western Hemisphere”.
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So we should build nothing there?
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-tower-part/373076/3 "2006-09-17T16:38:29Z")
> [@msmith537](#):
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> No one **problem** counselled with you because you probably aren’t really in a position to know whether it’s good or bad ideas.
that should read “probably”.
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### Author:  [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-tower-part/373076/4 "2006-09-17T17:09:23Z")
> [@msmith537](#):
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> IIRC, 7 WTC was destroyed by controlled demolition charges planted by the Jews but that’s neither here nor there.
Excuse me? What do you mean “that’s neither here nor there”? I don’t suppose you can link to something reputable to support that wacky notion?
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### Author:  [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-tower-part/373076/5 "2006-09-17T17:54:17Z")
> [@adam yax](#):
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> Excuse me? What do you mean “that’s neither here nor there”? I don’t suppose you can link to something reputable to support that wacky notion?
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-tower-part/373076/6 "2006-09-17T19:25:59Z")
> [@msmith537](#):
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> Doubtfull.
What’s your basis for saying it’s doubtful? At this point, we have no idea when the thing is going to be built. So, security concerns aside, I would bet that the private sector has a lot of incentive to leave this thing alone - at least for now.
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### Author:  [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Key_Lime_Guy)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freedom-tower-part/373076/7 "2006-09-17T20:08:01Z")
They’re referring to the **NEW** 7 World Trade Center, which has just finished construction (or is close).