# Freemen on the land

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 5, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164 "2012-06-05T15:51:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/1 "2012-06-05T15:51:58Z")

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They are a very peculiar bunch. Have a read of this article: [http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman\_on\_the\_land](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land)

There are some great movies of their lunacy too. [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP8BGjkGAdg)’s [an](http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=ec-euzvhj28) [example](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFE7qpFq-G4&feature=relmfu) (three parts). The patience of the cop is something to behold.

Or even more incredibly, [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV4DifdBGe8)’s one where they STORM A COURT and “arrest” a Brit judge.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/2 "2012-06-05T16:21:33Z")

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“You may have the guns and the police and the military and all the money, but we have The Majick Words! Ha-ha!”

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/3 "2012-06-05T17:41:46Z")

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Try leaving comments on the last video pointing out the error of their ways. He goes balistic then blocks you. It’s really funny!

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/4 "2012-06-05T23:19:26Z")

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The gubmint can’t tax our stillsuits, they’re medical devices!

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/5 "2012-06-05T23:22:56Z")

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Apparently they believe, like Captain Kirk talking an AI into self-destructing, that law and government can be “crashed” by the legal equivalent of a [basilisk](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilisk#Reuse_in_science_fiction_and_popular_culture).

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/6 "2012-06-05T23:27:21Z")

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Wouldn’t it be awesome if we discovered FTL and habitable worlds, or a stargate program, and could dump all of these people on the same world and then seal them off for 100 years just to see what kind of Society resulted.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/7 "2012-06-05T23:29:10Z")

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> [@Confused dart cum](#):
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> They are a very peculiar bunch. Have a read of this article: [Freeman on the land - RationalWiki](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land)

Check out the section on Freemen successes. 😃

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/8 "2012-06-05T23:43:57Z")

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> [@Confused dart cum](#):
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> Try leaving comments on the last video pointing out the error of their ways. He goes balistic then blocks you. It’s really funny!

We prefer that people not use the SDMB to recruit others for board wars against other websites. Please don’t advocate such actions.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/9 "2012-06-05T23:52:29Z")

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Bah…they won’t impress me until they start riding sandworms…

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/10 "2012-06-06T00:05:13Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> Check out the section on Freemen successes. 😃

I am almost impressed by their complete inability to comprehend how not right they are. You would think at some point, they’d see how they’re getting rebuffed and attempt some modified form of argument, but as far as I can tell they just keep using the same ideas over and over again, as if there exists some judge that will agree, and they’ve all had the misfortune of having jerks who won’t listen.

I wonder how often LEOs have to deal with these guys.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/11 "2012-06-06T00:55:00Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be awesome if we discovered FTL and habitable worlds, or a stargate program, and could dump all of these people on the same world and then seal them off for 100 years just to see what kind of Society resulted.

Sort of like Thunderdome? [or a kilkenny cats solution]

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**Author:** ![GythaOgg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@GythaOgg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GythaOgg)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/12 "2012-06-06T02:31:53Z")

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There is a HUGE thread on a skeptical messageboard I visit sometimes about this weirdness with some genuine FOTL ‘believers’ showing up to argue their points with the regulars endlessly. It’s interesting to dip into sometimes, but impossible to read all the time - it goes in endless circles. There are some folks very very invested in this stuff out there. It’s mind-boggling.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/13 "2012-06-06T02:37:08Z")

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I would be interested in reading some of that, Gytha, if you wouldn’t mind sending me a link. You don’t appear to have PMs turned on or I’d have asked that way.

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**Author:** ![GythaOgg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@GythaOgg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GythaOgg)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/14 "2012-06-06T03:01:01Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> I would be interested in reading some of that, Gytha, if you wouldn’t mind sending me a link. You don’t appear to have PMs turned on or I’d have asked that way.

Check your PMs…I generally leave my PMs off because I never remember to check them if they’re on.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/15 "2012-06-06T03:13:11Z")

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> [@GythaOgg](#):
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> Check your PMs…I generally leave my PMs off because I never remember to check them if they’re on.

UserCP\>Edit Options\>Private Messaging\> check box “Show New Private Message Notification Pop-up”

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/16 "2012-06-06T03:25:03Z")

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Thanks for the PM! To quote Fry: Not sure if trolling or just really stupid.

Whoa, David Icke? Don’t tell me the lizard people are mixed up in this, too!

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/17 "2012-06-06T03:30:32Z")

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The lizard people are mixed up in EVERYTHING. Do try to keep up.

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**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/18 "2012-06-06T03:34:52Z")

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rationalwiki, never see it and must say very cool.

Oh these guys are wackjobs, NDAI

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/19 "2012-06-06T03:39:37Z")

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Aye, aye, cap’n! (See what I did there? I made a nautical reference. Because FMOTL people are all about the ships. Whoa! Sailing on the seas of commerce, commerce deals with finance, the Crimson Permanent Assurance sailed the seas of high finance, Monty Python created the CPA, therefore Monty Python were free men of the land! Ow, I think I broke my brain.)

[QUOTE=a muckety muck in the world of freedom]  
Know this though steven, you are stuck in level two of freedom, and until you abandon ego you will never see the third.  
[/quote]

Hmm, very zen. _lights incense and meditates_

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freemen-on-the-land/624164/20 "2012-06-06T04:04:15Z")

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This is a group that thinks losing a court case, possible loss of home/car/job and getting jail time for annoying judges is a victory.

A secret conspiracy of lizard people is not that weird in their world.

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