# Freepers make racist attacks on Malia Obama for wearing a peace-sign t-shirt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011 "2009-07-14T18:13:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kenner116](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecb155/32.png) [@kenner116](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenner116)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/21 "2009-07-14T19:20:55Z")
Only two thousand five hundred and forty seven more days, Dio. ---
**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/22 "2009-07-14T19:21:55Z")
> [@BugMeNot2](#): > > Well, I don’t post on Free Republic, but I certainly hate the inane “peace” symbol. Well, yeah, but she’s 11 years old. Wearing inane symbols is pretty much par for the course. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/23 "2009-07-14T19:22:01Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Free Republic is a cesspool. Their active efforts to ban anyone who doesn’t tow the Far Right line make it that way. There were a FEW comments on that thread taking the majority to task. And reality somehow broke through to the moderation and administration that the thread was really making them look BAAAD, because they pulled it, then restored it, then pulled it again. > > But the range of opinion on Free Republic is much narrower than it is here (yes, even with our much-talked-about liberal bias). Much, MUCH narrower. Ok fair enough, but I bet most of the people in this thread have posted on the DailyKos. If I complain about one thing and then Diogenes posts something contradictory as it regards another subject on the DailyKos does that make me a hypocrite for complaining about it in the first place? Basically the point being how do you know that the people saying the attacks on Palin’s children might not also be the ones saying that attacks on Malia are distasteful? I am on record on this message board as saying that all attacks on all children are distasteful whether it be Palin, Obama or Chelsea Clinton in the 90s. If someone read my saying that attacks on Malia Obama are in poor taste and some random person read it, they might say we’re all hypocrites because we thought it was ok to attack Palin’s daughters, but that’s not so, I am not a hypocrite because I spoke out about attacks on Palin’s daughters as well. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/24 "2009-07-14T19:23:30Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Because they have the same user names. Then point out those individuals who have the same user names. But \*\*SenorBeef \*\*nails it on the head. This whole gotcha thing where all people are painted with the brush because they have overlapping ideology is beyond stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/25 "2009-07-14T19:24:44Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Still, their opinions on whether it’s acceptable to insult the children of politicians can vary, right? There was virtually no dissent in the thread in question, so if it’s your position that freepers are so widely diverse in their opinions, then where was the dissent? > [@](#): > > Do they have the same taste in pizza toppings too? This is fatuous. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/26 "2009-07-14T19:24:47Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > I’m an ultra conservative Republican and I’m embarassed and outraged at these comments on FreeRepublic. :mad::mad::mad: Ya know, I was gonna ask about that. Is the username a reflection of your deep and abiding admiration for a bloodthirsty, warmongering asshole, or just an attempt to bait DFH like myself? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/27 "2009-07-14T19:24:49Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > I’m confused. What was everyone at Free Republic upset over? > > The fact that Malia was wearing a T-shirt? > The fact that the T-shirt had a peace symbol on it? > The fact that the family are wearing casual clothes? > The the clothes worn by the guy in the picture with Malia are so casual as to look trashy? (Okay, I’ll give them that one.) I think it’s the fact that she is a nigger and has moved into an exclusive neighborhood and brought down the property values. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/28 "2009-07-14T19:26:39Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > What’s also annoying are the statements that now that Malia has made herself a political symbol, Letterman should start making sexual jokes about her. What a bunch of maroons. The reason Letterman made a sexual joke about Bristol Palin was because Bristol Palin made her political message about sex, specifically her own sex life. Until Malia gets knocked up out of wedlock, then goes on to state abstinence is unreasonable, then later starts advocating abstinence, her sex life is not an issue. Another difference is that Bristol is an adult. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/29 "2009-07-14T19:27:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Ya know, I was gonna ask about that. Is the username a reflection of your deep and abiding admiration for a bloodthirsty, warmongering asshole, or just an attempt to bait DFH like myself? Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. He made a fairly nuanced and reasoned post in Great Debates and I couldn’t wrap my mind around the cognitive dissonance. It’s interesting that he took the name of one of the most detestable cold-warriors around. The human race is lucky that we had people like Albert Wohlstetter to save us from monsters like Curtis LeMay. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/30 "2009-07-14T19:28:49Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Another difference is that Bristol is an adult. Another difference is that if we are referring to the comment by David Letterman, he wasn’t talking trash about Bristol. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/31 "2009-07-14T19:29:01Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There was virtually no dissent in the thread in question, so if it’s your position that freepers are so widely diverse in their opinions, then where was the dissent? The issue isn’t whether there’s dissent in that thread, but whether the same people posting this opinion also posted outrage at the supposed attacks on Palin’s kids (which were ridiculous accusations btw). If everyone in that thread is of the opinion that insulting kids is fine, then there’s no hypocrisy, just douchebaggery. It’s not my intent to defend the freepers, btw. They’re usually looney fuckwits. I just don’t generally like the “The people who X are the same people who Y” device. > [@](#): > > This is fatuous. I know, you should see my gut. Er, wait…_checks [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com)_ Bastard. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/32 "2009-07-14T19:32:28Z")
LOL **Beef**. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/33 "2009-07-14T19:34:35Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Ok fair enough, but I bet most of the people in this thread have posted on the DailyKos. I haven’t. I’ve never even read it. > [@](#): > > If I complain about one thing and then Diogenes posts something contradictory as it regards another subject on the DailyKos does that make me a hypocrite for complaining about it in the first place? Basically the point being how do you know that the people saying the attacks on Palin’s children might not also be the ones saying that attacks on Malia are distasteful? A number of the posters making the derogatory and racist statements about Malia have also whined and complained about the alleged attacks on Sarah Palin’s family. No presumptions are necessary. Each poster has a history. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/34 "2009-07-14T19:35:55Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Another difference is that if we are referring to the comment by David Letterman, he wasn’t talking trash about Bristol. Yeah, he was. She’s the one who got herself pregnant by being abstinent, right? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/35 "2009-07-14T19:38:57Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > She’s the one who got herself pregnant by being abstinent, right? Does the pope know about this? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/36 "2009-07-14T19:40:07Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The issue isn’t whether there’s dissent in that thread, but whether the same people posting this opinion also posted outrage at the supposed attacks on Palin’s kids (which were ridiculous accusations btw). > > If everyone in that thread is of the opinion that insulting kids is fine, then there’s no hypocrisy, just douchebaggery. They have the same user names as those who whine about imaginary attacks on Palin’s children. > [@](#): > > It’s not my intent to defend the freepers, btw. They’re usually looney fuckwits. I just don’t generally like the “The people who X are the same people who Y” device. As I said, I’m not just profiling a message board, I literally recognize a lot of the same user names who are outraged about alleged attacks on Palin’s family. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/37 "2009-07-14T19:41:06Z")
Okay, in that case your use of “the same people” is valid. In my experience, 95%+ of the time it’s generalizations without actually meaning “the same people”. By all means, keep bashing the douchebaggery. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/38 "2009-07-14T19:46:30Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I think it’s the fact that she is a nigger and has moved into an exclusive neighborhood and brought down the property values. It’s public housing anyway, so that doesn’t matter. I kid, I kid! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/39 "2009-07-14T20:00:47Z")
But the application process just to get on the waiting list is a stone-cold bitch. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/40 "2009-07-14T20:01:24Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > How do you know it’s the same people? > > Are you and I of the same cohort because we post on the same message board? Who gives a fuck? No, really. It’s just some faceless iterwebs assholes who don’t mean shit to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011.md?page=3)