# Freepers make racist attacks on Malia Obama for wearing a peace-sign t-shirt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011 "2009-07-14T18:13:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/61 "2009-07-15T01:55:29Z")
As for what **Diogenes** asserted, I recall Glenn Reynolds writing at one point recently (paraphrased) “If Obama had been subject to half the negative press Sarah Palin has, he’d run home in tears.” Speaking of whom, the last time I checked his and a couple other conservative-type blogs, there’s been absolutely nothing written about it. I wonder how those who are generally on FR’s “side” of things are casting this? I mean, I know they’ve condemned/disagreed with them in the past (e.g. many prominent conservative bloggers deploring FR’s assistance in spreading the “Obama is not a citizen” thing as a red herring and waste of time), but it does make me ponder what FR’s general reputation is among those of conservative bent. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/62 "2009-07-15T02:04:48Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I think it’s the fact that she is a nigger and has moved into an exclusive neighborhood and brought down the property values. Sorry - reading your post [this song](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex4U0K3TYkE) popped into my head. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/63 "2009-07-15T02:55:15Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > … it does make me ponder what FR’s general reputation is among those of conservative bent. **Bricker** in his post shortly above has answered that for me. I don’t consider Freeper to be conservative; I consider it to be rightwingbatshitcrazy. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/64 "2009-07-15T03:00:04Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > As for what **Diogenes** asserted, I recall Glenn Reynolds writing at one point recently (paraphrased) “If Obama had been subject to half the negative press Sarah Palin has, he’d run home in tears.” Cite? Obama has gotten far worse crap than Palin. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/65 "2009-07-15T03:02:32Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > **Bricker** in his post shortly above has answered that for me. > > I don’t consider Freeper to be conservative; I consider it to be rightwingbatshitcrazy. Well, exactly. They aren’t worth giving the time of day to. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/66 "2009-07-15T03:13:49Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I lasted one post! > (Some moran said “the PotUS isn’t allowed to enter a US state without the permission of the state’s Governor”, I asked for a cite. :eek: :smack: :rolleyes:) > > CMC fnord! For some reason I find this totally hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/67 "2009-07-15T03:20:37Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I lasted one post! > (Some moran said “the PotUS isn’t allowed to enter a US state without the permission of the state’s Governor”, I asked for a cite. :eek: :smack: :rolleyes:) > > CMC fnord! Vampire rules. The state is the home of the governor. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/68 "2009-07-15T03:26:40Z")
Is “permission” the same as “invitation”? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/69 "2009-07-15T04:07:04Z")
Depends on exactly what sort of vampire rules we’re playing by here. I don’t have access to the original documents - they’re held by the illuminati. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/70 "2009-07-15T04:13:57Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > Cite? Obama has gotten far worse crap than Palin. Why are you asking me to cite someone else’s opinion? 🙂 I just brought it up to show that what **Diogenes** said some people think (apparently, unless I’m misinterpreting Reynolds) IS what some people think. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/71 "2009-07-15T04:19:47Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Free Republic allows only a very narrow and lockstep range of ideology. Anyone who deviates from that gets banned. Not true. I lasted all of two posts on there. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/72 "2009-07-15T04:21:21Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Why are you asking me to cite someone else’s opinion? 🙂 I just brought it up to show that what **Diogenes** said some people think (apparently, unless I’m misinterpreting Reynolds) IS what some people think. Sorry, that was a little misleading. I’d like a link to that column, if possible. I was also expressing my incredulity at the statement. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/73 "2009-07-15T05:03:57Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > Sorry, that was a little misleading. I’d like a link to that column, if possible. I was also expressing my incredulity at the statement. Ah, gotcha. I should’ve had the link to begin with, but I dreaded looking through the archives trying to find it, with Reynolds’ blog output being what it is. But I [found it:](http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/81284/) > [@Glenn Reynolds](#): > > But if the ever-so-thin-skinned Barack Obama got one-tenth the abuse that Sarah Palin has gotten, he’d cry like a little girl. And his defenders would scream raaaacciiiiism at the top of their lungs. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/74 "2009-07-15T05:09:53Z")
I should clarify that I went back and reread **Dio’s** original statement. I don’t believe that Reynolds has ever said anything personally disparaging or racist about either Obama or his family. It was partly my misreading, and I apologize. Though I think the cite is still relevant vis a vis the comparison some make between the treatments of Obama and Palin. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/75 "2009-07-15T05:19:41Z")
Sometimes, under the influence of too much sugar, and/or linden tea, I am ready to believe that there is a band of jokesters going around the internet, posting on the freepers site, and other such bastions of human intelligence, just to give them a bad name. A _really_ bad name. Please tell me it is so. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/76 "2009-07-15T05:36:44Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > Sometimes, under the influence of too much sugar, and/or linden tea, I am ready to believe that there is a band of jokesters going around the internet, posting on the freepers site, and other such bastions of human intelligence, just to give them a bad name. A _really_ bad name. > > Please tell me it is so. No, some people really ARE that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/77 "2009-07-15T05:51:26Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Ah, gotcha. I should’ve had the link to begin with, but I dreaded looking through the archives trying to find it, with Reynolds’ blog output being what it is. > > But I [found it:](http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/81284/) After looking at his site, I can’t say I blame you. Though virtually all of his entries are simply links to someone else’s article, with perhaps a sentence of explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/78 "2009-07-15T15:40:38Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > …posting on the freepers site, and other such bastions of human intelligence… _head asplodes_ ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/79 "2009-07-15T15:43:40Z")
**mswas** said: > [@](#): > > He sprayed his hose all over Palin’s younger daughter’s face making a joke that was only barely ok about Palin’s older daughter. “Sprayed his hose”? That sounds like a sexual euphamism. I agree that Letterman aimed the joke at Bristol but hit the wrong daughter. > [@](#): > > The joke essentially came out to sound like he was talking about a 14 year old being raped by A-Rod. Well, a 14 year old having consensual sex with A-Rod, which makes it rape in the statutory sense. Going overboard in the counter assertion just makes the response look intentionally inflammatory. > [@](#): > > Even so, jokes about Bristol Palin even if she is 18 are pretty tasteless. Bristol has earned the right for tasteless jokes to be told about her. But I agree that calling her a slut and a whore is inappropriate and only makes the accuser an ass. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011/80 "2009-07-15T15:47:41Z")
Why has Bristol earned the right to have tasteless jokes said about her? Because she fucked her HS boyfriend and got knocked up while her Mom was a politician? And statutory rape is rape. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/freepers-make-racist-attacks-on-malia-obama-for-wearing-a-peace-sign-t-shirt/503011.md?page=5)