# French pronunciation of "jet" ?

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**Created:** [February 18, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161 "2017-02-18T17:52:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
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I was reading about the Matra Djet and it states, “The car was named Djet, because Bonnet thought the French could not pronounce the word jet correctly.”

What would be the problem with the French pronunciation?

> **[Matra Djet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matra_Djet)**
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> The Matra Djet is a French sports car that was originally designed and sold by René Bonnet. As the Bonnet Djet it was the world's first rear mid-engined production road car. Different versions of the car were produced from 1962 until 1967 and sold under a variety of names that included René Bonnet Djet, Matra-Bonnet Djet, Matra Sports Djet and finally, Matra Sports Jet.
> The car started out as the René Bonnet Djet in June 1962. This model became known in retrospect as the Djet I. Bonnet named it ...

Dennis

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/2 "2017-02-18T18:12:51Z")

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The French “j” by itself is always pronounced /ʒ/ (the zh sound as in vision). English j is pronounced /dʒ/. To get the French to say it the English way, you have to write a d in front of the j.

Same reason we used to see “Tajik” spelled “Tadzhik,” because it got filtered through Russian, which like French has /ʒ/ but not /dʒ/. They don’t have a single letter to represent /dʒ/.

Same reason Chaikovsky always has that T stuck in front of his name. Because French.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/3 "2017-02-18T18:41:55Z")

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In French, “jet” is pronounced “zheh” and you’d meet it in the sense of a fountain (jet d’eau) or throwing something (“jets de pierres”), but not in relation to jet engines, which are something completely different in French.

So if you’re selling a sports car on the image of a jet engine, you’d presumably want to evoke the sound of the English word to suggest something modern/go-ahead/technologically wizard, and as excitingly foreign as French names can sound for products sold in the English-speaking world.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/4 "2017-02-18T19:13:15Z")

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However, nowadays, jet as in “jet engine” would be pronounced like in English, so if this car was produced now, it would presumably be simply called “jet”. “Djet” just seems bizarre.

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**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/5 "2017-02-18T20:03:58Z")

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I’m not sure how it is pronounced anyway, I never heard anyone say it. I always think 2 syllables, “Dee-jet”.

Dennis

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/6 "2017-02-18T20:05:08Z")

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Yeah, it’s like they were hung up on “we don’t want you to pronounce it with a French accent”.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/7 "2017-02-18T20:33:57Z")

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A similar issue arises in the French name for the African nation of Chad. The French have to spell it Tchad, in order to convert the /sh/ sound of French “ch” into the /tsh/ sound that is represented in English by “ch”. Although it is difficult to be convinced of that, French is actually a very phonetic language and adjustments are often made in foreign-word spelling in order to keep orthographic conformity.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/8 "2017-02-18T22:10:06Z")

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Or Francophone Djibouti, Jabuuti in Somali.

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/9 "2017-02-19T02:23:53Z")

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As clairobscur says, we just pronounce it the English way. Unless it’s “jet” as in something thrown or a waterhose (“jet d’eau”), in which case the -t is silent and the j is a soft g instead of a hard one (so, no dj, just j).

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**Author:** ![Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellis_Aponte_Jr)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/10 "2017-02-20T06:38:38Z")

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This reminds me of a French novel by Alain Robbe-Grillet called _Djinn_, which is about an American woman named Jean. Obviously it would be misleading to title it _Jean_.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/11 "2017-02-20T08:35:14Z")

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> [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](#):
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> This reminds me of a French novel by Alain Robbe-Grillet called _Djinn_, which is about an American woman named Jean. Obviously it would be misleading to title it _Jean_.

Plus, who would want to miss the opportunity to have a pun in the title itself.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/12 "2017-02-21T06:29:43Z")

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Give the people of Paree credit for preserving the pronunciation of foreign names; Americans don’t. Many of us are even unfamiliar with the French heroine Zhan Dark.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-pronunciation-of-jet/780161/13 "2017-02-21T07:51:24Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Give the people of Paree credit for preserving the pronunciation of foreign names; Americans don’t. Many of us are even unfamiliar with the French heroine Zhan Dark.

Anecdotically, it’s only around the last episode of the first season of _True Blood_ that I realized the Louisiana town the action takes place in was really called Bon Temps (French for “good times” or “good weather”) rather than Buwntahn or something like that :).
