# French response to terror?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 7, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266 "2015-01-07T22:06:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![bubba001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f17d59/32.png) [@bubba001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubba001)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/1 "2015-01-07T22:06:11Z")

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Will the French strike back at the terrorists? Do you think the French Foreign Legion will be sent to Iraq?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/2 "2015-01-07T22:08:32Z")

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Why would they go to Iraq?

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/3 "2015-01-07T23:07:20Z")

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> [@bubba001](#):
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> Will the French strike back at the terrorists?

…yes.

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> Do you think the French Foreign Legion will be sent to Iraq?

No.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/4 "2015-01-07T23:40:07Z")

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OP is looking for opinions. Moved from General Questions to IMHO.

**samclem** , moderator

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/5 "2015-01-07T23:49:35Z")

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The reports I see are that the suspects are all from France. It will depend greatly on their background and if they received training or help from an outside source.

So far I haven’t seen how they have identified the suspects so quickly. But it’s early yet.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/6 "2015-01-08T00:02:53Z")

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Ive read that they have been trained in Yemen.

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**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/7 "2015-01-08T00:13:00Z")

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At least they haven’t surrendered yet.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/8 "2015-01-08T01:10:13Z")

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I read somewhere today France will review its security procedures. I’m tired of hearing shit like that. What, you didn’t review your security procedures during the last 30 years or so?

It’d be nice instead of reviewing things, they did something. I’m not sure what they’re supposed to do, but something other than reviewing would be nice. Same goes for most countries, not just France.

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**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/9 "2015-01-08T02:08:22Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I read somewhere today France will review its security procedures. I’m tired of hearing shit like that. What, you didn’t review your security procedures during the last 30 years or so?
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> It’d be nice instead of reviewing things, they did something. I’m not sure what they’re supposed to do, but something other than reviewing would be nice. Same goes for most countries, not just France.

Well, before they review anything they have to form a _committee_. Then the committee has to establish _procedures_. Then they have to have _hearings_. Then they have to file a _report_. Then they have to _publish a report of the hearings_. Then they have to _review the report of the hearings_. **Then** they can do something. Do what, you say? Why then they can form a\* committee\*…LRR.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/10 "2015-01-08T02:17:31Z")

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If they were trained in Yemen, France should attack Bangladesh.\</W\>

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/11 "2015-01-08T02:19:11Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> Why would they go to Iraq?

Good question. If only you’d been in the Bush administration on September 12, 2001.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/12 "2015-01-08T02:29:57Z")

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Wait, I’m a bit behind on the news. Have they in fact identified some suspects?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/13 "2015-01-08T02:32:13Z")

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> [@bubba001](#):
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> Will the French strike back at the terrorists? Do you think the French Foreign Legion will be sent to Iraq?

No, I don’t think the French authorities will burn down the suburb of Paris where the two main guys involved apparently grew up.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/14 "2015-01-08T02:37:09Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Wait, I’m a bit behind on the news. Have they in fact identified some suspects?

They’ve identified three people of interest, the youngest of whom just turned himself in. [Other people who’ve associated with those two have been arrested.](http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/08/us-france-shooting-idUSKBN0KG0Y120150108)[NBC thought that one had been killed and two more arrested](http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/paris-magazine-attack/confusion-french-hunt-magazine-attack-suspects-n281761), but are since backtracking from that claim.

The French have had their eye on the two older brothers for some time now.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-response-to-terror/709266/15 "2015-01-08T02:39:37Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I read somewhere today France will review its security procedures. I’m tired of hearing shit like that. What, you didn’t review your security procedures during the last 30 years or so?
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> It’d be nice instead of reviewing things, they did something. I’m not sure what they’re supposed to do, but something other than reviewing would be nice. Same goes for most countries, not just France.

Reviews of procedures may well have happened. Reviewing when the system is working can find some things. When something goes wrong though you have a specific case of the system not producing the desired results. Even if they did a full, fine toothed comb style, review annually would you want them not to review the procedures after this?

We hear it as an answer because it’s the easy one that everyone can agree on in the early moments. In those early moments you are still digging through conflicting information and taking immediate action to deal with the consequences. As much as it might make everyone you sees the press conference feel more comfortable if there was a solid long range plan… there’s not. Shooting from the hip when something isn’t time critical is a recipe for reactions that are ineffective or even counter-productive.

Apparently the French security forces were able to react well in the short term. They identified and tracked down the SOBs quickly. That most certainly is doing something and something that is hard and time critical. Good on them. It’s not action that speaks to the long term but it obviously is an important focus early.

Now they can start to dig in on what to do about the problem in general.

Edit - Okay some backtrack on the getting them all. Still good and fast work getting as far as it looks like they have. It does speak to the confusion rampant at the start of crisis.
