# French speaking Dopers - what is the English translation for these Grace Jones lyrics?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 16, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131 "2013-06-16T17:57:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/1 "2013-06-16T17:57:33Z")

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[This](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIN3IE3DHqc) is a Grace Jones video from circa 1979/80. I know that I saw it in rotation in a music video show from before MTV launched. I was about 10 or 11 when I first saw it, and it freaked me right the hell out. I liked it, yet I was inexplicably disturbed by it at the same time. It was so distinctly different from anything else I had seen.

Anyway, my question really is what do the French lyrics that she sings / speaks at the end of the song translate to in English? I have always wondered what. Any french speaking dopers care to translate?

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/2 "2013-06-16T18:15:46Z")

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In his room,  
Joel and his suitcase,  
look at his rags,  
On the wall, photos,  
Without regret,  
without sentiment,  
the door is slammed,  
Joel is gone.

Google translate gives a different translation, but I offer you mine.

The consensus online for the French lyrics is:

Dans sa chambre, Joel et sa valise,  
un regard sur ses fringues,  
Sur les murs, des photos,  
Sans regret, sans mélo,  
La porte est claquée, Joel est barré.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/3 "2013-06-16T18:35:29Z")

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The album that is off of, _ **Nightclubbing** _ is fucking perfect. Sly and Robbie on the rhythm. Perfect grooves and great songs. Her cover of Use Me is worth the price of admission alone.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/4 "2013-06-16T18:38:55Z")

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Oh my! I’d forgotten this album, which I bought for some reason in high school. Pull up to my bumper, baby!

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/5 "2013-06-16T19:06:11Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Pull up to my bumper, baby!

Back when that charted in Britain, the BBC still occasionally banned songs with explicit content. I guess “Pull up to my bumper baby / In your long black limousine / Pull up to my bumper baby / Drive it in between” didn’t ping their radar.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/6 "2013-06-17T16:43:06Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> In his room,  
> Joel and his suitcase,  
> look at his rags,  
> On the wall, photos,  
> Without regret,  
> without sentiment,  
> the door is slammed,  
> Joel is gone.
> 
> Google translate gives a different translation, but I offer you mine.
> 
> The consensus online for the French lyrics is:
> 
> Dans sa chambre, Joel et sa valise,  
> un regard sur ses fringues,  
> Sur les murs, des photos,  
> Sans regret, sans mélo,  
> La porte est claquée, Joel est barré.

Yup, that’s what I hear, and your translation’s on the money. My only nitpick would be that “rags” is a bit too negative a word. “fringues” is just colloquial slang for clothes without any value judgement - more like “togs” or perhaps “threads”.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/7 "2013-06-17T22:25:13Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> The album that is off of, _ **Nightclubbing** _ is fucking perfect. Sly and Robbie on the rhythm. Perfect grooves and great songs. Her cover of Use Me is worth the price of admission alone.

Yeah, I have fond memories of that being a great album.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/8 "2013-06-18T03:34:07Z")

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A belated thanks to **Baron Greenback** for providing the answer.

I spent this afternoon at work piping in _Nightclubbing_ on Spotify. One of the youn’un gay guys from the other side of the cubicle aisle asked me what I was listening to, and I had to explain to him who Grace Jones was. It made me feel a little old, but I think I made a sale.

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**Author:** ![Themenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee59a6/32.png) [@Themenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Themenin)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/9 "2013-06-18T08:30:48Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Yup, that’s what I hear, and your translation’s on the money. My only nitpick would be that “rags” is a bit too negative a word. “fringues” is just colloquial slang for clothes without any value judgement - more like “togs” or perhaps “threads”.

Agree with this, but I would also nitpick “Joel est barré”. As written this would mean “Joel is ‘out there’”, as in ‘kind of strange’ = ‘un peu barré’.

“Joel \*\*s’\*\*est barré” would mean “Joel has left”.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/10 "2013-06-18T09:22:30Z")

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> [@Themenin](#):
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> Agree with this, but I would also nitpick “Joel est barré”. As written this would mean “Joel is ‘out there’”, as in ‘kind of strange’ = ‘un peu barré’.
> 
> “Joel \*\*s’\*\*est barré” would mean “Joel has left”.

That is correct, and I actually thought about mentioning that but I think that’s Grace Jones’ mistake there, as the barré = crazy meaning wouldn’t really make sense in the context.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/11 "2013-06-18T12:10:37Z")

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> [@Don\_Draper](#):
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> A belated thanks to **Baron Greenback** for providing the answer.
> 
> I spent this afternoon at work piping in _Nightclubbing_ on Spotify. One of the youn’un gay guys from the other side of the cubicle aisle asked me what I was listening to, and I had to explain to him who Grace Jones was. It made me feel a little old, but I think I made a sale.

Excellent. I was visiting Paris in the '80’s; while walking around we saw '80’s icon, already-famous-in-the-U.S. artist Keith Haring doing some commissioned graffitti art close to Pompidou Center. We approached him and he was very cool about it - no one in Paris was bugging him.

We asked him what he thought of Paris and he said something like “oh, last night I attended a party where Grace Jones showed up naked and I painted art all over her body while the party went on around her. It was great…”

😉

I Googled Keith Haring painted by Grace Jones and found these images: [grace jones painted by keith haring - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=grace+jones+painted+by+keith+haring&safe=off&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0k3AUYm-INXe4AP8qYCoAQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAA&biw=1024&bih=672)

Perhaps you can share those photos with him…

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/french-speaking-dopers-what-is-the-english-translation-for-these-grace-jones-lyrics/661131/12 "2024-06-13T12:23:04Z")

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I came across this post from 2013 regarding the lyrics from Grace Jones’s great track, I’ve seen that face before. Funnily enough, i was listening to that track recently, reminiscing and all that, and i too was slightly confused by the lyrics, Joel est barré: I have used different translation sites and they come up with different answers  
Joel is gone; bounced; did one  
Joel is barred;  
Joel is mad:  
It would seem to me going by the end of the track you can hear police sirens getting closer and louder. Joel est barré a cause de la police. Joel did a runner from the police.  
Love and peace to you all.
