# "Frequency" healing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 6, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455 "2014-07-06T01:55:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/1 "2014-07-06T01:55:51Z")

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My wife ran into these guys today:

http://www.buytfp.com

They say “we use the newest and most powerful Frequency technology available today in order to give you maximum results”. The video says they put this stuff in a “machine” for 48 hours and change its frequency… but no other details.

Obviously I think it is baloney… I also realize that there is a real placebo effect. I was surprised to not find any real comments on these guys with Google. Is “frequency healing” a new thing… sort of a modern take on magnets for the same purpose?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/2 "2014-07-06T02:06:53Z")

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Ask them if they mean sinusoidal, sawtooth or square.

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**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/3 "2014-07-06T16:24:43Z")

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From their website:

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> True Frequency Products LLC makes no healing, curative or medical claims or warranties regarding its products.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/4 "2014-07-06T18:03:43Z")

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> [@Learjeff](#):
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> From their website:

Then what “maximum results” are they talking about?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/5 "2014-07-06T18:17:59Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Then what “maximum results” are they talking about?

Profits.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/6 "2014-07-06T18:27:31Z")

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Whenever you hear or see the words “frequency” or “vibration,” you _know_ you’re dealing with major quackery.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/7 "2014-07-06T18:58:20Z")

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> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> Whenever you hear or see the words “frequency” or “vibration,” you _know_ you’re dealing with major quackery.

Yup. Also “quantum”.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/8 "2014-07-06T18:58:44Z")

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> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> Whenever you hear or see the words “frequency” or “vibration,” you _know_ you’re dealing with major quackery.

Not so with audiology.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/9 "2014-07-06T19:00:56Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Then what “maximum results” are they talking about?

The absolute most healing anybody should expect from such treatment.

And, no, it’s [not particularly new.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_medicine)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/10 "2014-07-06T19:01:40Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Not so with audiology.

Maybe, but that’s not a medical field now is it?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/11 "2014-07-06T19:10:18Z")

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I prefer [Marvin Gaye’s method.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjlSiASsUIs&feature=kp)

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/12 "2014-07-06T20:34:37Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Maybe, but that’s not a medical field now is it?

Actually - I assumed it was -

[QUOTE=[Audiology - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiology)]  
Audiology (from Latin audīre, “to hear”; and from Greek -λογία, -logia) is a branch of science that studies hearing, balance, and related disorders. Its practitioners, who treat those with hearing loss and proactively prevent related damage are audiologists. Employing various testing strategies (e.g. hearing tests, otoacoustic emission measurements, videonystagmography, and electrophysiologic tests), audiology aims to determine whether someone can hear within the normal range, and if not, which portions of hearing (high, middle, or low frequencies) are affected and to what degree. If an audiologist determines that a hearing loss or vestibular abnormality is present he or she will provide recommendations to a patient as to what options (e.g. hearing aid, cochlear implants, surgery, appropriate medical referrals) may be of assistance.  
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An audiologist is a health-care professional specializing in identifying, diagnosing, treating and monitoring disorders of the auditory and vestibular system portions of the ear. Audiologists are trained to diagnose, manage and/or treat hearing, tinnitus, or balance problems. They dispense, manage, and rehabilitate hearing aid users and assess candidacy and map cochlear implants.

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[http://www.audiology.org/Pages/default.aspx](http://www.audiology.org/Pages/default.aspx)

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/13 "2014-07-07T03:18:59Z")

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Hundreds of necklace-wearing baseball players will tell you those things realign their body’s electrical fields and improve health (or more likely, just say “duh…it feels good!”). Bracelets and other jewelry with alleged healing powers have sold by the millions.

On a more complex scale, various frequency/electrical/radio wave devices have been used by quacks for many years. Albert Abrams was one of the early 20th century “pioneers” in this field, later followed by Raymond Rife (his machines were supposed to send out radio frequency waves to heal every kind of disease ever heard of and some that might not even exist). “Violet ray” machines were popular in the 1920s and cured pretty much whatever ailed you.

All this stuff has been supplanted by evidence-based medicine, unless you’re one of the anointed who _knows_ the classic quackeries still work and are only out of favor because they’ve been suppressed by Big Pharma. ☹

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/14 "2014-07-07T07:06:44Z")

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I think their strongest and most convincing arguments in that video is when they inform us that Albert Einstein—yes, THAT Albert Einstein—once said something about charge and bodies of water taking on that charge. Since our bodies are like, 70% water, then their high-quality, organic, home-grown frequencies will adhere to something Einstein once said about something. We’re talking about Einstein here, folks.

Also, they answer a pivotal question when it comes to the skeptics: “Hey, how does it work?” Well, ya see, it works _instantly._

I’m sold.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/15 "2014-07-07T18:43:28Z")

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Aw, man. These threads are no fun unless and until a true believer comes along to soak up abuse.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frequency-healing/692455/16 "2014-07-08T01:21:28Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> All this stuff has been supplanted by evidence-based medicine, unless you’re one of the anointed who _knows_ the classic quackeries still work and are only out of favor because they’ve been suppressed by Big Pharma. ☹

“Repeat after me: pharma being shit does not mean magic beans cure cancer.”

– [Ben Goldacre](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ben_Goldacre)
