# Fried Dough Ho Needs to Go **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 1, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066 "2011-01-01T18:27:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/61 "2011-01-02T04:33:13Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > No one needs or deserves to be driven from the Dope over a single insult. > > And we as a community don’t need that kind of bullshit mentality being pushed. I dunno; I don’t have a problem with **Fried Dough Ho** and if she’s stretching the truth here, she’s certainly not the only one, but on the other hand, this wasn’t a tremendously harsh Pitting, and if she’s not keen enough on this site to stick around with this (not very high) level of animosity, I’d say this place just isn’t for her. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/62 "2011-01-02T04:51:09Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Right? She even [lived on a boat](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13050147#post13050147)! Two words: Sea Org. Anyway, I don’t see anything that FDH has claimed that is too unbelievable except the money laundering and dating Weird Al Yankovich. She’s been pretty consistent on everything else. She’s probably just a bullshitter and tells her friends’ stories as if they’re her own. That doesn’t strike me as the worst thing in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/63 "2011-01-02T04:56:57Z")
I dunno, it’s not like others aren’t self-aggrandizing around here. I myself am Immortal, have been President of the United States twice under different names, invented Aikido (ony to have that bastard Morihei Ueshiba steal it from me), was a Prince under Genghis Khan back in the day and was Pope on three different occasions back in the middle ages. Right now I’m a top secret Billionaire Playboy/Astronaut/Intelligence Agent moonlighting as a tech support guy just for kicks. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/64 "2011-01-02T05:08:12Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I dunno, it’s not like others aren’t self-aggrandizing around here. > > I myself am Immortal, have been President of the United States twice under different names, invented Aikido (ony to have that bastard Morihei Ueshiba steal it from me), was a Prince under Genghis Khan back in the day and was Pope on three different occasions back in the middle ages. Right now I’m a top secret Billionaire Playboy/Astronaut/Intelligence Agent moonlighting as a tech support guy just for kicks. Well, that does it. Your story doesn’t check out. You must be Pitted and driven away. The fight against ignorance has no quarter for such as you. Besides, you’re just moonlighting. As a real Playboy/Astronaut/Intelligence Agent who does all full-time, I can say you’ll never make it to the big kids’ table at our annual conventions unless you drop that tech support stuff. Okay, I hope we’ve injected enough silliness into this thread. I agree with **Chimera** ’s remarks in his or her earlier post: “No one needs or deserves to be driven from the Dope over a single insult. And we as a community don’t need that kind of bullshit mentality being pushed.” If a stellar, unblemished, unchallenged record is a prerequisite to be a Doper, then we’d likely have very few members. Something to think about. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/65 "2011-01-02T05:12:49Z")
Nobody drove her away though, she left on her own. If this was a lynching, it’s a rather slackful lynching. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/66 "2011-01-02T05:42:53Z")
None of her stories strike me as definitively unbelievable. Everybody has stories that sound far-fetched when told with no context. But following up her stories with explanations such as she’s unable to tell any more or someone will get in trouble is a good way to come off as less than believable. In the Tawnee Stone thread. she insulted somebody, got called on it, and then got all bent out of shape. Then here, she was very mildly pitted, defended by some, and went out all huffy that some people found her less than credible at times. I agree that no one drove her away; she left on her own. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/67 "2011-01-02T05:50:28Z")
For example when I asked her how she witnessed a Masonic initiation, she said that she couldn’t tell because she didn’t want the guys who made it happen to get in trouble, since they are still part of the Masonic organization. (If they really are, they must have very guilty consciences since they violated the essential tenets of all three of the obligations they took.) But regardless, she still could have told the story of how it happened without revealing any specific people. The fact that she couldn’t do it makes me wonder how true the story is. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/68 "2011-01-02T05:52:34Z")
Would her stories count as “Munchausen by Internet”, or is it only making up tales of being sick and/or injured? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/69 "2011-01-02T05:59:00Z")
Ah, the second woman ever to be in attendance for a Masonic initiation. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/70 "2011-01-02T06:44:35Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > [Oh so very clever. Now, asshole, why don’t you revisit the Pit thread you posted in GD, making yourself look like an idiot (again) and actually try, I dunno, debating.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13307064&postcount=46) Any time now, mouthbreather. > [@FinnAgain](#): > > Come on glutton, you had a GD thread to prove how wrong I was and all you could do is run away, and then you started a [Pit thread in GD where you were soundly bitch slapped immediately, and can’t stand to actually respond to anything there, either.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=591259)Come on, you cowardly little shit. **FinnAgain** , **BrainGlutton** ’s failure to post elsewhere on the boards does not relate to anything going on in this thread, and following him around yelling at him like this is getting very stalkery. Please desist from doing this. No warning issued. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/71 "2011-01-02T06:55:27Z")
Acknowledged. But you can note that I was posting in this thread \*before \*he was. Hardly stalking, and I can’t follow something that comes after me. You can also note that as the Pit thread that Glutton started in GD about me got moved to the correct forum, I was happy to direct my comments to him there. I’d also note that it’s a bit odd that Glutton is allowed to troll in other forums, but I suppose that’s just the way the board works. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/72 "2011-01-02T07:26:55Z")
If you want to discuss moderator actions, the proper forum for that is ATMB, not here. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/73 "2011-01-02T07:42:28Z")
Nah, wasn’t aiming to discuss moderator actions, just noting that I couldn’t follow someone or stalk someone if they came to a thread _after I was already posting there_. I acknowledge and acknowledged and agree to abide by your moderator instructions. Nor did I wish to discuss the policy on trolling, just to note that it’s a bit frustrating. I probably shouldn’t have mentioned it, as it was more a throwaway grumble than an argument. “Meh, I don’t like it” would make a decidedly lousy ATMB thread. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/74 "2011-01-02T08:49:40Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > No one needs or deserves to be driven from the Dope over a single insult. Good thing that didn’t happen, then. ---
**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/75 "2011-01-02T09:43:39Z")
It’s Traci Lords. Sorry, but that was just bothering me. ---
**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/76 "2011-01-02T09:54:06Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > No one needs or deserves to be driven from the Dope over a single insult. > > And we as a community don’t need that kind of bullshit mentality being pushed. Oh put a sock in it, Polyanna, she left cause she was caught out lying like a lying thing. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/77 "2011-01-02T12:29:14Z")
I’ve known quite a few women and men who make simliary sorts of claims. And all of them, in addition to our “late” poster, all appeared to have singed, if not outright smoldering pants. ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/78 "2011-01-02T12:41:26Z")
Can someone explain to me how not having the fortitude for a public lynching equates equates to lying? Is it a requirement that one validate every past post that is brought up out of context? I am going to try on a few points, below. I admit that I am too thin-skinned for this and offered a resignation thinking it would appease the masses, yet it turns into having minor inconsistencies in stories dredged which then constitutes an entire fabrication of my existence? I done mucked up at pointing a finger at Cisco. Sorry. Really - more than you guys know – I should not have made the insinuation. I misread the OP. It blew up in my face. Badly. I apologize profusely. > [@lorene](#): > > Still I can’t really claim knowledge that any of it is made up. The only thing I’ve found that’s even contradictory at all is whether she was raped [at 16 (and walking home from school) and 29 (and drinking)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=578566) or [at 15 (and walking to school) Lorene ~ here is that full story and why it sounds contradictory: Two months before my 15th birthday, I was dropped off at school by my father an hour-or-so early for band practice. I was wearing a white dress and minutes after he drove off, while I walking into the band room, I noticed a very large tear in my dress; one that too large to deal with for the entire day. Because school did not technically start for another hour, I went to the band teacher and showed him my dress and said that I was going to run home and change my clothes for the day. So the attack occurred at 7:15 a.m. in the morning; technically I was walking home from school but it was also before the school day had begun and I was still, in my mind, “on my way to school” as I intended upon returning. Technically was I was still 15 years old, but in my mind, already 16 being a few months shy of my birthday. > [@lorene](#): > > Right? She even [URL=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13050147#post13050147](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13050147#post13050147)”]lived on a boat]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13110824&postcount=127](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13110824&postcount=127))! Yes, in Panama for nine months. Lots of people have lived on boats. > [@Erdosain](#): > > I don’t have anything to say about FDH, but I can’t believe no one’s mentioned [her underaged blind date with Weird Al Yankovich](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12784697&postcount=171) when she was 14 years old and he was 19. I wish she would tell us why the date was “fairly disgusting.” It was a double date and the date was disgusting because it was a double-date and Al and the other guy spent the entire time trying to recreate bodily noses with parts of their bodies; hands in armpits, etc. It occurred because my best friend (who was 16) was dating a good friend of Al’s and the only way her mother would let her out was if a group of us was going with her and I was pair with Weird Al. It was three hours at a miniature golf course with the boys being adolescent. That’s it. > [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > For example when I asked her how she witnessed a Masonic initiation, she said that she couldn’t tell because she didn’t want the guys who made it happen to get in trouble, since they are still part of the Masonic organization. (If they really are, they must have very guilty consciences since they violated the essential tenets of all three of the obligations they took.) But regardless, she still could have told the story of how it happened without revealing any specific people. The fact that she couldn’t do it makes me wonder how true the story is. Argent, the Lodge Master in question DID violate those tenets of his obligation and was summarily discharged from his duties three months into taking his oath as Master (not related to me). The Lodge in question had several hallways and doors near the Senior Deacon’s seat and the Tiler was in cahoots with the Master to sneak me in. This particular Master was trying to change many of the inner-workings of Masonry on a number of levels partly by introducing a number of additional religious texts to the canon upon which oaths could be taken (namely, Crowley’s _Book of the Law_, which was briefly allowed within California Masonry but, I believe, is now not accepted) and by attempting to disband the Christian references which pervaded Masonry. He was also working in conjunction with the Grand Lodge of Belgium which does allow women and has a presence in Los Angeles. It was just one political move on his part which backfired and his losing his Lodge was not related to me, but other things he was doing which were against the Grand Lodge. > [@Cyningablod](#): > > To be utterly and possibly politically uncorrectly candid, when I was reading those threads at the time, I remember thinking that **FDH** wasn’t so much “sharing” or “venting” or “healing” or anything, but almost…_bragging_ about how hot she was all her life, or whatever. You know, such that rapists just can’t help themselves around her. It seemed very much to me like she was reveling in a sort of “victimhood pride” about her rape experiences. Cyningablod - I want to thank you for this comment. It helps elucidate in me that perhaps you are correct and I think it helps me understand myself a bit and where this thread has taken me. Sure, I appear as nothing other than a series of bizarre vignettes based on the bits that others have extracted. And one way to counter feelings of worthlessness – as many victims do – we tend to counter with whatever bits occur in our lives to build us up. And this is now the culmination of this thread and my online existence. Yes, it helps to brag about those little anecdotal incidents in our lives which build us up to more than what we feel we are inside. > [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I dunno; I don’t have a problem with **Fried Dough Ho** and if she’s stretching the truth here, she’s certainly not the only one, but on the other hand, this wasn’t a tremendously harsh Pitting, and if she’s not keen enough on this site to stick around with this (not very high) level of animosity, I’d say this place just isn’t for her. This may not be harsh in Dope standards. But I internalized it more than expected and agree, this is not the place for me. I honestly have no clue how to address those who think that because I can’t deal with this well enough, that everything I have previously stated is a lie. I’ve tried to clear up a few salient points. For better or for worse, I’ll leave it at that. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/79 "2011-01-02T12:52:27Z")
Don’t worry about it. If you are who I think you are, your sense of humor will carry you through. And if I win lotto I have several pieces in mind for friends. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/80 "2011-01-02T13:19:32Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Would her stories count as “Munchausen by Internet”, or is it only making up tales of being sick and/or injured? No, they would not. The second part of your question is the answer to the first. FWIW, I never said you were outright lying, **FDH**. It just is always surprising to me when someone I meet—IRL or on the internet—can top any story anybody has. (i.e.,\* I know someone who used to be a woman who is now a man\*…_well, **I** know THREE people and they were all women I fooled around with_.) Even if everything is 100% factual, it gets grating after a while. And hardly anybody is ever 100% factual. The OP aside, I haven’t seen posters trying to _run anybody off_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066.md?page=5)