# Fried Dough Ho Needs to Go

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 1, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066 "2011-01-01T18:27:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/121 "2011-01-02T22:44:41Z")

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To be clear: oddly enough, I didn’t find Aclockworkmelon’s joke to be particularly out of line as it pertained more to the dynamics of her relationship with the board than anything else. Just the whole notion of rape being on an equal footing with robbery seems dumb.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/122 "2011-01-02T22:59:43Z")

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I haven’t paid much attention to FDH and might be getting her confused with someone else but…

She seems genuinely knowledgeable about cooking.

Her tales of a very bad marriage and a life of troubled sexuality haven’t seemed too outrageous to me. I haven’t cross referenced the details.

In the current Tawnee Stone thread, she didn’t read the OP, and couldn’t give a clean apology, but Cisco’s “fuck you” post in that thread did warrant mod intervention. My guess is that if she hangs around SDMB she’ll get better about giving non-snotty apologies.

In summary: She seems overall good for the board rather than bad, but I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/123 "2011-01-02T23:06:39Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Just the whole notion of rape being on an equal footing with robbery seems dumb.

Fair enough; but my point was that a line needs to be drawn, and I don’t get why rape treated as so much more horrible than other violent crimes.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/124 "2011-01-02T23:11:16Z")

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> [@Gestalt](#):
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> Fair enough; but my point was that a line needs to be drawn, and I don’t get why rape treated as so much more horrible than other violent crimes.

Because it IS so much more horrible than robbery? You didn’t mention “other violent crimes”.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/125 "2011-01-02T23:47:35Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> Cisco’s “fuck you” post in that thread did warrant mod intervention.

Why? Because I honestly don’t understand. I did not say “fuck you” to her-- I made no direct insult whatsoever. When you explain why I needed to be admonished, include why what I said was worse than Fried Dough Ho skipping the OP to get straight to the pedo accusations.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/126 "2011-01-03T00:10:07Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Why? Because I honestly don’t understand. I did not say “fuck you” to her-- I made no direct insult whatsoever. When you explain why I needed to be admonished, include why what I said was worse than Fried Dough Ho skipping the OP to get straight to the pedo accusations.

Well, I won’t try to convince you, but for anyone who hasn’t read the thread in question, here’s the exchange in question:  
**Fried Dough Ho:**  
Her website claims she is 19.

**Cisco:**  
No fucking shit, Sherlock, I referenced that in the OP. Her and I are less than a year apart in age so get the fuck out of my face with your disgusting (and ridiculous, and premature, and ignorant as fuck) accusations.

I think calling someone “ignorant as fuck” in Cafe Society is going to get you Mod attention 99% of the time.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/127 "2011-01-03T00:16:00Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> Well, I won’t try to convince you, but for anyone who hasn’t read the thread in question, here’s the exchange in question:  
> **Fried Dough Ho:**  
> Her website claims she is 19.
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> **Cisco:**  
> No fucking shit, Sherlock, I referenced that in the OP. Her and I are less than a year apart in age so get the fuck out of my face with your disgusting (and ridiculous, and premature, and ignorant as fuck) accusations.
> 
> I think calling someone “ignorant as fuck” in Cafe Society is going to get you Mod attention 99% of the time.

What is your game here? Why not quote all of the fucking exchange?

> [@It seems Tawnee Stone may have died \[she's alive- ed. title\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-tawnee-stone-may-have-died-shes-alive-ed-title/565925/4):
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> “years” has been emphasized.
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> I had to Google her and was fairly appalled at her youthful demeanor. If she is/was only 19, than I am doubly more concerned that she might have been doing work illegally as a teen.
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> In which case, you should be ashamed of yourself… :eek:

> [@It seems Tawnee Stone may have died \[she's alive- ed. title\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-tawnee-stone-may-have-died-shes-alive-ed-title/565925/5):
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> She is 28, she probably did start when she was 18 though.

> [@It seems Tawnee Stone may have died \[she's alive- ed. title\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-tawnee-stone-may-have-died-shes-alive-ed-title/565925/6):
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> Her website claims she is 19.

> [@It seems Tawnee Stone may have died \[she's alive- ed. title\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/it-seems-tawnee-stone-may-have-died-shes-alive-ed-title/565925/7):
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> No fucking shit, Sherlock, I referenced that in the OP. Her and I are less than a year apart in age so get the fuck out of my face with your disgusting (and ridiculous, and premature, and ignorant as fuck) accusations.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/128 "2011-01-03T00:19:24Z")

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This penis party’s got to go,  
HEY HEY  
HO HO

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/129 "2011-01-03T00:19:50Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> Well, I won’t try to convince you, but for anyone who hasn’t read the thread in question, here’s the exchange in question:  
> \*\*Fried Dough Ho:\*\*Her website claims she is 19.  
> \*\*Cisco:\*\*No fucking shit, Sherlock, I referenced that in the OP. Her and I are less than a year apart in age so get the fuck out of my face with your disgusting (and ridiculous, and premature, and ignorant as fuck) accusations.I think calling someone “ignorant as fuck” in Cafe Society is going to get you Mod attention 99% of the time.

“Ignorant as fuck” modifies the word “accusations”. He never called \*her \*ignorant.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/130 "2011-01-03T00:25:50Z")

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Not to mention “get the fuck out of my face”. That’s pretty close to “fuck you”.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/131 "2011-01-03T00:29:41Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Not to mention “get the fuck out of my face”. That’s pretty close to “fuck you”.

:rolleyes:

I agree with the mod action for **Cisco** , his post was out of line for MPSIMS. I’m uncertain as to why another poster implying that he is a pedophile is not also out of line for that forum.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/132 "2011-01-03T00:37:48Z")

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I agree with **Sage Rat**.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/133 "2011-01-03T00:44:42Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> :rolleyes:
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> I agree with the mod action for **Cisco** , his post was out of line for MPSIMS. I’m uncertain as to why another poster implying that he is a pedophile is not also out of line for that forum.

Huh? I was just commenting that "saying “get the fuck out of my face” IS basically saying “fuck you”. He said he didn’t insult her. I would argue that he did.

I don’t blame him, I’m just pointing out that yeah, that’s pretty much what he said. Chill.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/134 "2011-01-03T00:45:44Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> This penis party’s got to go,  
> HEY HEY  
> HO HO

Pack up your rape-culture and take a hike!

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/135 "2011-01-03T00:46:51Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Huh? I was just commenting that "saying “get the fuck out of my face” IS basically saying “fuck you”. He said he didn’t insult her. I would argue that he did.
> 
> I don’t blame him, I’m just pointing out that yeah, that’s pretty much what he said. Chill.

No, that’s not even close to the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/136 "2011-01-03T00:51:21Z")

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I disagree. Or perhaps I should say, it’s closer to, “fuck OFF.” But whether it is or isn’t, it’s still insulting.

But at this point, I really don’t care.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/137 "2011-01-03T00:54:05Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> “Ignorant as fuck” modifies the word “accusations”. He never called \*her \*ignorant.

I think that comment is just ignorant as fuck.  
(Nah. Kidding, **needscoffee**. I was trying to show you that the verbiage is emotionally loaded --and inappropriate for CS-- no matter what is technically being modified.)

And\*\* Frank\*\*, this may seem too technical, after just complaining about overly technical interpretations to needscoffee, but…  
Ms. Dough Ho didn’t call Cisco a pedophile or a ephebophile. At worst, she implied that he had semi-knowingly watched porno featuring under-aged actresses.

She didn’t imply it was a preference of his, or an activity that he pursued in real life. I think those factors would be necessary for an actual accusation of pedophilia.

It was a misguided accusation, and she later apologized (poorly.)

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/138 "2011-01-03T01:01:01Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Pack up your rape-culture and take a hike!

Pack up your rape-culture in your old kit bag and smile. Smile. Smile.

I agree with posters that have agreed with other posters who said stuff that agrees with me.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/139 "2011-01-03T02:03:19Z")

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I wasn’t aware of **FDH** ’s “tall tales” until this thread, but the majority opinion expressed here has kind of struck a nerve with me.

I am reminded of the time I invited my girlfriend to my Mom’s birthday back in '99. My Dad was quite a character, and in the course of the birthday party, he related a few of his colorful experiences. No big deal to me - I’d been hearing tales of his and my mother’s (less unusual) experiences all my life. I was really surprised, however, to my girlfriend’s take on my Dad when we talked afterwards. She thought he was completely full of shit, and nothing I could say could convince her otherwise. This _really_ bothered me at the time, because no matter what flaws you could accurately ascribe to my father - never listens to anyone, rough with his children, an overbearing prick at times, etc. - he simply was NOT the kind of guy who just made shit up to make himself look like a big shot. Compared to my life (to this point) and those of everyone I know, he actually _was_ a big shot.

There really are people who have led more interesting lives than you or me. Whether or not **FDH** ’s stories are actually true, it seems really sad that many here seem to think that simply because her purported experiences are outside the norm, that is sufficient cause to call her a liar.

I come here partly to read about other people’s experiences. If everyone’s life really was as boring as mine, it wouldn’t make for a very entertaining read…

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/140 "2011-01-03T02:03:41Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I disagree. Or perhaps I should say, it’s closer to, “fuck OFF.” But whether it is or isn’t, it’s still insulting.

I think a great many [del]mods[/del] people confuse “offensive” with “insulting”, and then make the leap from “insulting” to “personal insult”. There simply isn’t anything personally directive about “fuck off” (which Cisco still didn’t say). “Get the fuck out of my face” isn’t even close to that. Suggesting that mods now need to police the use of “fuck” as an adverb/adjective is cleaning the language up beyond what’s allowed on prime time television.

[QUOTE=Baal Houtham]  
(Nah. Kidding, needscoffee. I was trying to show you that the verbiage is emotionally loaded --and inappropriate for CS-- no matter what is technically being modified.)  
[/QUOTE]  
There is no specific language restriction in CS. You can say fuck in there all you like as long as it’s not insulting someone.

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