# Fried Dough Ho Needs to Go

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 1, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066 "2011-01-01T18:27:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/141 "2011-01-03T02:14:06Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> I wasn’t aware of **FDH** ’s “tall tales” until this thread, but the majority opinion expressed here has kind of struck a nerve with me.
> 
> I am reminded of the time I invited my girlfriend to my Mom’s birthday back in '99. My Dad was quite a character, and in the course of the birthday party, he related a few of his colorful experiences. No big deal to me - I’d been hearing tales of his and my mother’s (less unusual) experiences all my life. I was really surprised, however, to my girlfriend’s take on my Dad when we talked afterwards. She thought he was completely full of shit, and nothing I could say could convince her otherwise. This _really_ bothered me at the time, because no matter what flaws you could accurately ascribe to my father - never listens to anyone, rough with his children, an overbearing prick at times, etc. - he simply was NOT the kind of guy who just made shit up to make himself look like a big shot. Compared to my life (to this point) and those of everyone I know, he actually _was_ a big shot.
> 
> There really are people who have led more interesting lives than you or me. Whether or not **FDH** ’s stories are actually true, it seems really sad that many here seem to think that simply because her purported experiences are outside the norm, that is sufficient cause to call her a liar.
> 
> I come here partly to read about other people’s experiences. If everyone’s life really was as boring as mine, it wouldn’t make for a very entertaining read…

Her stories contradict each other…

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/142 "2011-01-03T02:26:32Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Her stories contradict each other…

I’m not sure that’s correct. But even if it was, I did qualify my statement by saying, “Whether or not FDH’s stories are actually true”.

It’s more of a general trend that I’ve noticed here over the years, rather than anything specific to her story (although, just to put it out there, my father _actually was_ involved in Panamanian money-laundering, as my brother and I discovered after he passed away. It does happen.)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/143 "2011-01-03T02:33:31Z")

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Was he also raped twice? Did he date two different celebrities, and witness secret Masonic rites? Oh, and did he have three lesbian lovers who later had sex changes?

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/144 "2011-01-03T02:48:45Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Was he also raped twice?

No. But I hardly find that an outrageous claim (sadly).

> [@](#):
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> Did he date two different celebrities, and witness secret Masonic rites?

Not that I am aware of, although from the links I’ve seen here, she only claimed one date with Weird Al as a teenager and making out with Bourdain once. I have no idea how likely the Masonic rites witnessing is, as the only experience I have with anything even tangentially related to that is being a member of DeMolay when I was 18-19 (I joined because one of my friends was in and I liked the sports events they orgainzed).

> [@](#):
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> Oh, and did he have three lesbian lovers who later had sex changes?

Well, I’ll give you that one. It certainly does seem a bit of a stretch. But if my Dad was a Doper and shared his stories here, I’m sure that many of his true (and verifiable) experiences would be similarly disbelieved.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/145 "2011-01-03T02:55:50Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Was he also raped twice? Did he date two different celebrities, and witness secret Masonic rites? Oh, and did he have three lesbian lovers who later had sex changes?

There’s not a person here living out on their own in the real world, who, if you took their most unusual experiences and posted them, wouldn’t sound over the top. I have no idea if FDH is telling the truth or not, but the fact that her stories are out of the norm is not really note-worthy. Her inconsistencies are more troubling, but it’s easy to mix up details after all this time. I don’t understand why she posted the rape thread, but whatever reason, I can’t claim to know that her stories have all been made up. Who knows? Maybe she dated Chastity Bono (killing two categories with one stone!)

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/146 "2011-01-03T03:10:32Z")

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I may not always drink beer, but when I do…

I prefer Genny Cream Ale.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/147 "2011-01-03T03:54:16Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> I wasn’t aware of **FDH** ’s “tall tales” until this thread, but the majority opinion expressed here has kind of struck a nerve with me.
> 
> I am reminded of the time I invited my girlfriend to my Mom’s birthday back in '99. My Dad was quite a character, and in the course of the birthday party, he related a few of his colorful experiences. No big deal to me - I’d been hearing tales of his and my mother’s (less unusual) experiences all my life. I was really surprised, however, to my girlfriend’s take on my Dad when we talked afterwards. She thought he was completely full of shit, and nothing I could say could convince her otherwise. This _really_ bothered me at the time, because no matter what flaws you could accurately ascribe to my father - never listens to anyone, rough with his children, an overbearing prick at times, etc. - he simply was NOT the kind of guy who just made shit up to make himself look like a big shot. Compared to my life (to this point) and those of everyone I know, he actually _was_ a big shot.
> 
> There really are people who have led more interesting lives than you or me. Whether or not **FDH** ’s stories are actually true, it seems really sad that many here seem to think that simply because her purported experiences are outside the norm, that is sufficient cause to call her a liar.
> 
> I come here partly to read about other people’s experiences. If everyone’s life really was as boring as mine, it wouldn’t make for a very entertaining read…

Why did your girlfriend think your father was full of shit? And why do you think your father was incapable of making shit up?

Some people just have really good bullshit detectors.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/148 "2011-01-03T04:32:41Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Why did your girlfriend think your father was full of shit? And why do you think your father was incapable of making shit up?
> 
> Some people just have really good bullshit detectors.

> [@Fuji](#):
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> … But if my Dad was a Doper and shared his stories here, I’m sure that many of his true ( **and verifiable** ) experiences would be similarly disbelieved.

Bolding added.

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**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/149 "2011-01-03T04:48:34Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> Right? She even [lived on a boat](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13050147#post13050147)!

The Seaward?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/150 "2011-01-03T05:27:44Z")

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Well, it depends. Would your father post in a manner similar to that of the black-catters one of the australian dopers mentioned recently? Because if so, I, too, would roll my eyes and dismiss his stories. It’s not just that her stories are unbelievable, it’s that she has to have the bestest most outrageous story ever.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/151 "2011-01-03T06:08:34Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> Right? She even [lived on a boat](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13050147#post13050147)!

There are marinas full of people that live on boats, what is your point?  
Here is one [guy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_McGee) that lives on his own [boat](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oOWV5fWcZM0/TEy3HZCsjqI/AAAAAAAAA54/nE0jpog8Z3U/s1600/07-25-2010+05%3B27%3B54PM.jpg).

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/152 "2011-01-03T06:15:49Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> I think a great many [del]mods[/del] people confuse “offensive” with “insulting”, and then make the leap from “insulting” to “personal insult”. There simply isn’t anything personally directive about “fuck off” (which Cisco still didn’t say). “Get the fuck out of my face” isn’t even close to that. Suggesting that mods now need to police the use of “fuck” as an adverb/adjective is cleaning the language up beyond what’s allowed on prime time television.
> 
> There is no specific language restriction in CS. You can say fuck in there all you like as long as it’s not insulting someone.

Mileage varies, of course, but I would consider fuck off and get the fuck out of my face to be about equivilant.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/153 "2011-01-03T07:53:56Z")

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> [@outlierrn](#):
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> Mileage varies, of course, but I would consider fuck off and get the fuck out of my face to be about equivilant.

Maybe, but if someone is insulting you without basis or calling you a pedo for no reason, I would interpret ‘get the fuck out of my face’ as closer to ‘leave me the fuck alone’ - less of a personal insult, and more of a foul mouthed demand not to be treated unfairly (by specifically asking that the person not interact with you at all).

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**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/154 "2011-01-03T08:54:13Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> And why is Ellen Cherry a jerk “_as a person_”? Tune in…dunno when.

Shes adorabe as an anteater!

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/155 "2011-01-03T10:55:42Z")

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> [@Rick](#):
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> There are marinas full of people that live on boats, what is your point?  
> Here is one [guy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_McGee) that lives on his own [boat](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oOWV5fWcZM0/TEy3HZCsjqI/AAAAAAAAA54/nE0jpog8Z3U/s1600/07-25-2010+05%3B27%3B54PM.jpg).

I never said that people don’t live on boats, or more specifically, that **FDH** herself hadn’t lived on a boat. That would be an odd thing to make up, especially in the thread I linked to. **MOL** had said that she had an interesting life and I was using this as another example.

In fact, I never said that any one of **FDH** ’s stories are not true. Someone upthread asked,\* is it so hard to believe that people have more interesting lives than you do (paraphrased)? \* Not at all. 75% of the people I know have more interesting lives than I do.

It’s just noticeable when someone has been here for about 6 months and has shared the level and number of lived experiences that **FDH** has. I can be skeptical about the details of the sum total of her stories without thinking that any one story is made up.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/156 "2011-01-03T13:34:04Z")

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The two main things that raise my suspicions are the contradictory facts in stories and the reaction on questioning that this thread produced: _You either trust me or you don’t and since you don’t I’m out of here._

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/157 "2011-01-03T14:03:52Z")

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If she were really good, she’d fake her own death. We haven’t had one of those in a while.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/158 "2011-01-03T14:22:16Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> The two main things that raise my suspicions are the contradictory facts in stories and the reaction on questioning that this thread produced: _You either trust me or you don’t and since you don’t I’m out of here._

I (gulp) agree with **Bricker**. 🙂

She’ll be back as a sock - count on it.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/159 "2011-01-03T14:25:45Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> The two main things that raise my suspicions are the contradictory facts in stories and the reaction on questioning that this thread produced: _You either trust me or you don’t and since you don’t I’m out of here._

Indeed. My money is on reappearing as a sock also, if she hasn’t already.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-dough-ho-needs-to-go/566066/160 "2011-01-03T14:35:03Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> I think **Attack From the 3rd** once confused me for him, too (I might be thinking of someone else).

When AT was on hiatus, you started posting, and you reminded me of him somewhat, as you’re both young, male and twisted. I jokingly accused you of being his sock. Then I apologized, since you were a new poster, and I didn’t want to hurt your feelings.

> [@Zebra](#):
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> I agree with posters that have agreed with other posters who said stuff that agrees with me.

Nailed it. Couldn’t have said it better. +1

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