# "Fried Green Tomatoes" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 14, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388 "2008-07-14T02:31:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/21 "2008-07-15T21:16:44Z")
[QUOTE=lobotomyboy63] Or Cary Grant…or Rudolph Valentino…or Marlene Dietrich/Claudette Colbert… [/QUOTE] Cary Grant? Really? Ignorance fought. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/22 "2008-07-15T21:17:48Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] When I lived in Georgia I took a “shortcut” a co-worker recommended to me while driving home from Atlanta once and, because they left out a little turn, I got hopelessly lost. I found myself in this picturesque little town that I had a strong deja vu feel for- I _knew_ I’d seen it before but never been there. I learned later that it’s [Juliette, GA](http://www.juliettega.com/) where the Whistlestop scenes from the movie were filmed. (Now the movie’s a mini cottage enterprise there.) [/QUOTE] Apropos of not much, a second Whistlestop Cafe has opened here in Macon. It’s owned by the same folks, I’m sure. I refuse to try the ribs and no one can make me. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/23 "2008-07-15T21:21:58Z")
[QUOTE=Nawth Chucka] Apropos of not much, a second Whistlestop Cafe has opened here in Macon. It’s owned by the same folks, I’m sure. I refuse to try the ribs and no one can make me. [/QUOTE] One of the great scenes in the novel (that’s not in the movie) is of Big George’s son [he has twins- one very light skinned and one extremely dark skinned- this is the dark skinned one], who’s now old and senile in a B’ham home for the aged, smiling as he remembers the “special” barbecue his daddy once fixed him. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/24 "2008-07-15T21:24:26Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] One of the great scenes in the novel (that’s not in the movie) is of Big George’s son [he has twins- one very light skinned and one extremely dark skinned- this is the dark skinned one], who’s now old and senile in a B’ham home for the aged, smiling as he remembers the “special” barbecue his daddy once fixed him. [/QUOTE] :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/25 "2008-07-15T21:24:43Z")
[QUOTE=lobotomyboy63] Or Cary Grant… [/QUOTE] Lots of rumor, mainly about his relationship with his lifelong friend and early roommate Randolph Scott, but never proven. He married 5 times and had numerous affairs with women (including a young Sophia Loren), so if he did lean towards men sometimes he was at least bi. (A strange and true/documented story about him is that he was very close to his mother and was devastated- had emotional troubles for life- when he came home one day as a boy and she’d abandoned the family. He didn’t learn until many years later that his father had committed her to an insane asylum. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/26 "2008-07-15T22:23:29Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] One of the great scenes in the novel (that’s not in the movie) is of [/QUOTE] Oh, so many great stories . . . but my favorite is the tale of Earl and Vesta Adcock. “P.S. I’m not deaf.” :D:D:D Go Earl! ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/27 "2008-07-15T22:35:25Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] Lots of rumor, mainly about his relationship with his lifelong friend and early roommate Randolph Scott, but never proven. He married 5 times and had numerous affairs with women (including a young Sophia Loren), so if he did lean towards men sometimes he was at least bi. (A strange and true/documented story about him is that he was very close to his mother and was devastated- had emotional troubles for life- when he came home one day as a boy and she’d abandoned the family. He didn’t learn until many years later that his father had committed her to an insane asylum. [/QUOTE] IIRC I read the allegation in this or volume II, which Amazon doesn’t seem to have. > **[Hollywood Babylon: The Legendary Underground Classic of Hollywood's Darkest and...](https://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Babylon-Legendary-Underground-Hollywoods/dp/0440153255)** > > Hollywood Babylon: The Legendary Underground Classic of Hollywood's Darkest and Best Kept Secrets \[Anger, Kenneth\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Hollywood Babylon: The Legendary Underground Classic of Hollywood's Darkest and... ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/28 "2008-07-15T22:43:27Z")
Missed the edit window…I’ll consider my ignorance fought (not proven but many allegations). > **[Cary Grant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cary_Grant#Rumors_regarding_sexual_orientation)** > > Cary Grant (born Archibald Alec Leach;\[a\] January 18, 1904 – November 29, 1986) was an English-American actor. He was known for his Mid-Atlantic accent, debonair demeanor, light-hearted approach to acting, and sense of comic timing. He was one of classic Hollywood's definitive leading men. He was nominated twice for the Academy Award, and was honored with Academy Honorary Award in 1970, and the Kennedy Center Honor in 1981. He was named by American Film Institute the second greatest male st G... ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/29 "2008-07-15T22:57:40Z")
[QUOTE=Scarlett67] Oh, so many great stories . . . but my favorite is the tale of Earl and Vesta Adcock. “P.S. I’m not deaf.” :D:D:D Go Earl! [/QUOTE] “He just wasn’t the man she thought he was.” One of the Vesta stories is about a meteor that falls through the roof of a rental property she owns and the lawsuits it generated. Fictionalized for the book of course, but that \*actually happened \* in the '50s in Sylacauga (not terribly far from B’ham, where Fannie grew up). [Story of the meteor hit itself](http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0005.htm). The renter (who was actually _hit_ by the meteor- luckily her roof slowed it down) and her landlord both claimed ownership. The court ruled for the landlord. It turned out meteors weren’t worth as much as he seemed to think and unable to get his asking price he donated it to the U.A. where it’s on display at their natural history museum. From the newspaper account: > [@](#): > > The funny thing about the incident - although she probably did not find it amusing at the time - is that Mrs. Hodges lived opposite the Comet Drive-In Theatre. ---
**Author:** ![diggleblop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@diggleblop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diggleblop)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/30 "2008-07-16T04:12:17Z")
> [@](#): > > In our heart of hearts, we know that Idgie never would have gotten married. Because she was a dyke? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/31 "2008-07-16T04:22:10Z")
[QUOTE=diggleblop] Because she was a dyke? [/QUOTE] If you’re not a lesbian yourself, probably not a good idea to use that word. But, not just because she’s a lesbian (Ruth married after all) but because she was 1- a lesbian 2- independent 3- ornery 4- knew who and what she was and was not ashamed of it Idgie’s not just a lesbian but a person who is NOT going to conform to social conventions she finds ridiculous. She sells food to black people (out the back door, but that’s because it’s illegal for them to enter her restaurant except as help), she doesn’t go to church even though there’s not only social pressure but it would please her beloved mother, she treats “river trash” as friends and alcoholic hobos “like folks”, etc.. She’s got a strong will and isn’t going to hide behind a marriage of convenience (even with the sheriff who’s in love with her). I won’t reveal it, but one thing I thought was much funnier in the book was the trial and the twist over how they won. It involves her “river trash” friends (prostitutes, ne’er do wells, etc.) coming to her rescue. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/32 "2008-07-16T12:22:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Dolores Reborn > Raymond Burr was gay??? Talk about fighting ignorance… I had no idea! > > Oh, absolutely. He had lived with his partner for many years before he died. Godzilla’s _GAY_??? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388/33 "2008-07-16T18:56:27Z")
Raymond Burr tends to tie with Will “Grandpa Walton” Geer in the people who are shocked to learn they’re gay. Not sure what it is about those two. (Geer was married for a while and had two children but made no secret of his preference for men- something of a bohemian also.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fried-green-tomatoes/456388.md?page=1)