# Friend talkin \*\*\*\* about my daughter

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 2, 2011, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131 "2011-01-02T09:53:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/61 "2011-01-03T18:11:54Z")

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A group orgy would surely fix this slight disagreement!

(kidding! 😉 )

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**Author:** ![mookieblaylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@mookieblaylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mookieblaylock)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/62 "2011-01-03T18:30:37Z")

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If you don’t dump the friend then at least let him know that he crossed the line.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/63 "2011-01-03T20:16:04Z")

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Another point is that Claude Remains is a single father - his wife died some years back, so he’s the only primary influence in the home.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/64 "2011-01-03T20:17:53Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I feel compelled to follow this up by pointing to [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=552308): (read to post #3)

> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> I am in love with \*\*Ludovic \*\*now. Thank you for this.

Get in line!

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/65 "2011-01-04T00:47:19Z")

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All ties with friend cut. Cant do anything about the fact that we are next door neighbors. I’m not moving out of payed- off home.

Had good talk with daughter and she says that she would have thought less of me if I had knocked him out and landed in jail that night.

The "connection " thing - :rolleyes: No.

I’ve had friends who were “too old” for me from the time I was in the Navy, now I’m “too old” for some of my friends?

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/66 "2011-01-04T03:58:27Z")

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I’ve read this thread and I feel that I’ve been slimed. My disgust with humanity has been reborn.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/67 "2011-01-04T13:19:50Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> I’ve read this thread and I feel that I’ve been slimed…

Great, save me a sample!

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**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/68 "2011-01-04T16:35:04Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> Dude, I am 49 and I have friends of all ages, what is the big whoop - it isnt sexual. My husband and I spent a fun vacation with a 20 year old romanian gaming buddy of ours and had a blast, and there was absolutely nothing sexual going on at all.

What the fuck are you talking about? I never intimated that anything between the OP and his friend is sexual. Not sure where you are getting this from. Me thinks you protest too much.

> [@kopek](#):
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> I’m not the OP but sometimes our interests and activities make our circle of friends very mixed in terms of generation. When I was 16 a lot of my close friends were anywhere from 20-70 years old. I worked at a Harley shop and did a lot of touring - something the people my age just weren’t interested in. I’ve seen the same thing at sportsmens clubs and firehalls as well as some “traditional music forms” (such as polka and bluegrass).

If your best friend is half your age, it is out of the ordinary. That doesn’t mean there aren’t perfectly understandable reasons why two people of very different ages might hang out, but having an unusual relationship should come with an understanding that 99% of the time both people have differing responsibilities, maturity levels, and sensibilities.

As I said before, the OP, as the father of a teenager, should want to hang out with a more mature group of people closer to his age, and with similar responsibilities and expectations. Emphasis on responsibilities and expectations. Obviously, this is not the case with his friendship. What works for you clearly isn’t working for him, the guy who fantasizes about “pumping 5-year-olds full of jizz”, and his young friend who fantasizing about doing the same to his teenage daughter. It’s not solely an age issue, it’s just that age is a useful proxy by which we typically align ourselves. He should exercise discretion in his choice of friends not only for his sake, but for his daughter’s.

BTW Claude Remains, do you care to clarify your statements about fantasizing about 5-year-olds? On the surface, it seems kinda, you know, completely fucking despicable.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/69 "2011-01-04T20:48:47Z")

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I threw that out there for the shock value and it shit back in my face and will never go away. Not much more to say about it other than I regret drinking and posting stupid shit about a taboo subtect. Never gonna be able to spin my way out of that corner. That post got me banned. That post is the single most stupid thing I’ve done in 48 years.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/70 "2011-01-04T20:58:50Z")

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It doesn’t really seem like it’s all that out there for you. You were pretty okay hanging out with a guy who made similar creepy comments about women…until he said it about your daughter. It’s like that old cliche that people say–when you’re interacting with women, treat them the way you’d like men to treat your daughter or sister. I think it’s the same with comments like that–you didn’t really see them as all that creepy or sleazy until they were being applied to your own daughter.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/71 "2011-01-04T20:59:26Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> I threw that out there for the shock value and it shit back in my face and will never go away. Not much more to say about it other than I regret drinking and posting stupid shit about a taboo subtect. Never gonna be able to spin my way out of that corner. That post got me banned. That post is the single most stupid thing I’ve done in 48 years.

If true (if that one single vulgar drunken post was the stupidest thing you have ever done in your entire life) you are way, Way, WAY ahead of 99.9% of the rest of the poeple around you, certainly including myself and most of the people I know.

I have also made a few posts that I regret, but I put them behind me and try to forget about them. If certain posters are going to insist on bringing it up whenever they feel an opening, it seems to me that they are the ones that have some unhealthy fixations that ought to be examined.

It sounds like you try your best to be a good father, which should certainly be your primary focus for now, as you must realize that the SDMB is not very important in the grand scheme of things, right?

Good Luck—Matthew

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/72 "2011-01-04T21:06:57Z")

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> [@BMalion](#):
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> Great, save me a sample!

Mostly Claude Remains posts and links to his other posts. Ewww.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/73 "2011-01-04T21:33:34Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> It doesn’t really seem like it’s all that out there for you. You were pretty okay hanging out with a guy who made similar creepy comments about women…until he said it about your daughter. It’s like that old cliche that people say–when you’re interacting with women, treat them the way you’d like men to treat your daughter or sister. I think it’s the same with comments like that–you didn’t really see them as all that creepy or sleazy until they were being applied to your own daughter.

Mothers and sisters are fair game for verbal jousting, daughters are a protected class. The first time, I let it slide cause it was like 'I cant fuckin believe you just said that". I told my kid and she said that he in the past had crossed that line. She asked me to let her know if it were to come up again because she wanted to stick her foot up his ass.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/74 "2011-01-04T23:37:19Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> Mothers and sisters are fair game for verbal jousting, daughters are a protected class.

Sorry, but where did you pull this concept from?

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/75 "2011-01-05T00:00:06Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> If true (if that\*\* one single \*\*vulgar drunken post  
> \<snip\>  
> If certain posters are going to insist on bringing it up whenever they feel an opening, it seems to me that they are the ones that have some unhealthy fixations that ought to be examined.

Bolding mine.

It wasn’t one, single post. It was a post, then several posts defending the “pump a 5-year-old full of jizz” post.

But, whatev. I’m gonna take my unhealthy fixations elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/76 "2011-01-05T00:04:29Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> Mothers and sisters are fair game for verbal jousting, daughters are a protected class.

Uh huh. You realize that every mother and sister out there is somebody else’s daughter, right? Treat them like they’re your own.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/77 "2011-01-05T00:05:55Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> Mothers and sisters are fair game for verbal jousting, daughters are a protected class. The first time, I let it slide cause it was like 'I cant fuckin believe you just said that". I told my kid and she said that he in the past had crossed that line. She asked me to let her know if it were to come up again because she wanted to stick her foot up his ass.

But again, you still seem to have some weird hang ups on how you treat women. Why do you have to divide women up on how they should be treated? Wouldn’t you want to treat all women well, even if she’s not your daughter? Every woman is some person’s daughter. And, beyond that, even if a woman isn’t the daughter of a guy you know, she’s still someone you should be speaking of respectfully.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/78 "2011-01-05T00:09:02Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> I threw that out there for the shock value and it shit back in my face and will never go away. Not much more to say about it other than I regret drinking and posting stupid shit about a taboo subtect. Never gonna be able to spin my way out of that corner. That post got me banned. That post is the single most stupid thing I’ve done in 48 years.

This is the first time (that I’ve noticed) that you ever addressed that post.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/79 "2011-01-05T00:26:56Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Sorry, but where did you pull this concept from?

Actually, my friends and I make jokes about each others’ moms and sisters, but I have a feeling that our daughters would, in fact, be off-limits. I’ll let you know when one of us has a daughter.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/80 "2011-01-05T02:53:46Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Sorry, but where did you pull this concept from?

Your mom.

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