# Friend talkin \*\*\*\* about my daughter

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 2, 2011, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131 "2011-01-02T09:53:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![scratch\_llll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@scratch\_llll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch_llll)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/101 "2011-01-05T05:01:24Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Lorene’s post was completely irrelevant to this thread, but it sure got people to hate the OP pretty quickly, to the point where the ageism seems mild by comparison. I can only ascribe immoral motives to the post–far more immoral than being friends with someone, gasp, younger than you, or–gasp–trying to get people to treat a pedophile as a person.
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> I hope you are one day held as responsible for all your thoughts and feelings that are immoral. Trust me, they exist.

Except of course that Lorenes post was relevant in a turn the mirror around so you can see yourself way. In fact it worked perfectly and therefore was not unrelated. Speaking for myself I don’t hate the OP, I just wouldn’t trust him to babysit. Also if I knew he DID molest a child I might kill him and expect to be held responsible for my act just as people are held to account by others words for thier own words. I judge and expect to be judged. I accept it rather than try to wriggle out through wordplay and “we all want to stomp kittens in our black hearts right guys?” sort of BS.

Any peodo who acts on his impulse is taking advantage of the most vulnerable and that is the most disgusting thing imaginable. It is preying on the most weak like an animal so if others see that as sub-human it should be no surprise. Expressing disgust at the thought of it is therefore only natural and, speaking as a parent, it arouses instant protective instincts. Only natural.

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/102 "2011-01-05T08:42:29Z")

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im shocked to the core  
reading this thread felt like watching a car crash  
_im still gobsmacked_.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/103 "2011-01-05T09:00:30Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Thanks for revealing your bias. You apparently are not only assuming the worst possible interpretation of the OP

What did I assume? I thought that was a straightforward account of what he himself said.

> [@](#):
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> you admit that you are prejudiced against rednecks. You actually think it’s a slur.

Well, yes, I am, and I do. But in this area I think you (as an Arkansan) and and I (as a Texan) may not have much to agree about anyway, so I’ll use another term, such as the generic “lowlife.”

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/104 "2011-01-05T10:09:08Z")

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This is a most interesting thread in many ways. 😃

I’m really curious about how the topic of wanting to fuck the OP’s daughter even came up! Y’see, in my experience, random males might be salivating over the ‘hot daughter’ but they would NEVER, not EVER mention that to one of the _parents_ of the kid. It’s the biggest **no-no** of all time fer’ fucks sake.

Either the 22yr old ‘mate’ is a total cretin, or _somehow_ the two of them got into a ' **who do you wanna fuck’** session together, making the exchange \*somehow \*more believable.

In which case, you got what you asked for **Claude Remains**.

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/105 "2011-01-05T13:15:48Z")

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/106 "2011-01-05T13:24:47Z")

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regarding Claude Remains :  
the most evident display of stupidity ive ever seen, :spits in his direction:

the most questionable morality also :spits in his direction again:

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/107 "2011-01-05T13:39:12Z")

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Had to go back an check it again, it beggars belief…  
but what do i find when i read the opening statement again…

[quote=“Claude\_Remains, post:1, topic:566131”]

Last night was bitter-sweet to say the least. I lost my best friend over him running his mouth about wanting to have sex with my underage daughter. IQUOTE]

the phrase “running his mouth” used here is a dubious statement usually implying that secrets are being kept/conspired.

this is distressing

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/108 "2011-01-05T13:49:25Z")

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[quote=“Claude\_Remains, post:1, topic:566131”]

I’ve known him for a few years and he has told several girls that he will knock them out every time he gets upset at them, but this is my kid now! I am a big dude but I’m not going to jail over this

[QUOTE]

going to jail over what exactly?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/109 "2011-01-05T14:19:40Z")

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> [@ExistentialistDesperado33](#):
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> regarding Claude Remains :  
> the most evident display of stupidity ive ever seen, :spits in his direction:
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> the most questionable morality also :spits in his direction again:

Welcome to the SDMB, **ExistentialistDesperado33**. We do not allow personal insults against other members, except in the area known as the BBQ Pit, or “Pit.” If you want to insult someone directly, please start a thread there.

See our rules and guidelines in the forum called “About This Message Board.”

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/110 "2011-01-05T14:25:40Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Then, we have one poster who decided “Hey, I hate this person: what would be the worst thing I could say about this poster that won’t get me thrown into the pit?”

Oh, [it’s OK to end up in the Pit.](http://http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13318949#post13318949)

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/111 "2011-01-05T14:39:03Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> Oh, [it’s OK to end up in the Pit.](http://http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13318949#post13318949)

Duh. I suck at linking, obviously.[Better.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13318949#post13318949)

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/112 "2011-01-05T14:43:24Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> I’ve had friends who were “too old” for me from the time I was in the Navy, now I’m “too old” for some of my friends?

You’re too old for this one.

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/113 "2011-01-05T15:35:08Z")

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> [@Claude\_Remains](#):
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> Yeah… well… you’re right… (sigh). I’ve know the guy’s a caveman but it just hit home, literally.

is he a caveman with an ipod?

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/114 "2011-01-05T17:36:21Z")

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I though It was relevant that each of claude Remains replies up to about #15 seem hesitant and delayed almost as though he is trying very hard to create the right response (but they are flawed responses).

I just wouldn’t trust him in anyway and based on what we have heard from him, it leads me to consider the possibility of both the dad & his 22 yo friend being abusers of the girl

I can’t stop thinking that the dad & the friend conspiring but when he uses the term “running his mouth off” in the OP, he is actually referring to his friends indescrestion of (possible) abuse

thats what I suspect, read just the the points I make in #107 & #108 then the original post

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/115 "2011-01-05T17:42:33Z")

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think of the order of the statements in the original post?

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/116 "2011-01-05T17:50:13Z")

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he says “I am a big dude but I’m not going to jail over this”

Before  
he says “and now I’m starting to feel like some kind of punk that should have beat his ass but didn’t” (IN THE OP)

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/117 "2011-01-05T17:55:44Z")

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also in post #4 he uses the term "let the cat out of the bag last night "

This is synonamous to his outburst regardind his fantasies

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/118 "2011-01-05T18:01:50Z")

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OK, **ExistentialistDesperado33** , you’ve made your point. You doubt Claude’s version of events. Please give it a rest, now.

**Ellen Cherry  
MPSIMS Moderator**

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/119 "2011-01-05T18:03:57Z")

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> [@ExistentialistDesperado33](#):
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> I though It was relevant that each of claude Remains replies up to about #15 seem hesitant and delayed almost as though he is trying very hard to create the right response (but they are flawed responses).
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> I just wouldn’t trust him in anyway and based on what we have heard from him, it leads me to consider the possibility of both the dad & his 22 yo friend being abusers of the girl
> 
> I can’t stop thinking that the dad & the friend conspiring but when he uses the term “running his mouth off” in the OP, he is actually referring to his friends indescrestion of (possible) abuse
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> thats what I suspect, read just the the points I make in #107 & #108 then the original post

I think you’re grasping at straws and making accusations with no basis in facts; somebody’s writing style is not enough to justify these kinds of claims. I suspect Claude does a fair amount of drunken posting. I don’t think “running his mouth off” means “that secrets are being kept/conspired”. It means that the friend is blabbing about his OWN secrets.

Edited to add: Written after Ellen Cherry’s post

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**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/120 "2011-01-05T19:13:11Z")

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Yes my opinion expressed may or not be valid, but that the statement [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12087271&postcount=92) doesn’t win you any favours when asking people to regard you in a positive light does it?

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