# Friend talkin \*\*\*\* about my daughter **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 2, 2011, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131 "2011-01-02T09:53:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![KevinShi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c57346/32.png) [@KevinShi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KevinShi)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/121 "2011-01-05T19:27:35Z")
Soooo. Just so I completely understand what just happened in this crazy lil thread. whatshisname the op said that he had a 22 year old BEST friend. (which i find a tad odd. but really it doesn’t matter all that much.) The friend said that he would fuck the ops daughter, op tells daughter. daughter says im gonna yell at your friend and tell him that hes a pig or whatever. op tells bf that daughter says that. bf says im gonna beat her up if she does that. op realises maybe his choice of companionship was not the best idea and is wondering if he should have injured his bf. and says he feels like a punk because he didnt. then L something posted a link that made the op look like an immoral piece of schmuk. bla bla bla and people are raging over why he has a 22 yr old friend. 22yr old friends past history with women and the op. and that about sums it up? i guess? i probably missed something. so um yeah if i did just fill me in. ---
**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/122 "2011-01-05T19:51:20Z")
actually looking back I must appologize if my assumptions were poorly judged, It’s an very uncomfortable feeling for me to now reach a point where I do concede my own quick judgement, though in examining my hypothesis I felt very uncomfortable with the posibilty of it. I am humbled and have relaxed a bit so perhaps this is a cue for me to learn to pace myself in reaching conclutions (this is honestly not always easy in debate. So in reflection i do apologize for the zeal with which i threw those accusations out ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/123 "2011-01-05T20:17:21Z")
> [@ExistentialistDesperado33](#): > > actually looking back I must appologize if my assumptions were poorly judged, It’s an very uncomfortable feeling for me to now reach a point where I do concede my own quick judgement, though in examining my hypothesis I felt very uncomfortable with the posibilty of it. I am humbled and have relaxed a bit so perhaps this is a cue for me to learn to pace myself in reaching conclutions (this is honestly not always easy in debate. So in reflection i do apologize for the zeal with which i threw those accusations out What a SINCERE and HEARTFELT apology!!! I have no doubt that in time you will become a cherished and beloved member of the SDMB community, much like VCO3 or the guy who threw out his customer’s wedding ring (accidently left on the restaurant table) because he didn’t think that the tip that was left was big enough… ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/124 "2011-01-05T20:19:24Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > or the guy who threw out his customer’s wedding ring (accidently left on the restaurant table) because he didn’t think that the tip that was left was big enough… Wow, I missed that one. Link? ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/125 "2011-01-05T20:35:08Z")
> [@ExistentialistDesperado33](#): > > actually looking back I must appologize if my assumptions were poorly judged, It’s an very uncomfortable feeling for me to now reach a point where I do concede my own quick judgement, though in examining my hypothesis I felt very uncomfortable with the posibilty of it. I am humbled and have relaxed a bit so perhaps this is a cue for me to learn to pace myself in reaching conclutions (this is honestly not always easy in debate. So in reflection i do apologize for the zeal with which i threw those accusations out In addition to what others have said, I advise you to spend some time lurking, in order to get a feel for board culture. In terms of posting style and graphics we’re a pretty staid bunch. Excessive use of large fonts can be misinterpreted as shouting. ---
**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/126 "2011-01-05T20:43:49Z")
yes all valid points, taken on borad, thanks spectre and ascenray. Lurking mode on, must consider some sleep too (insomnia is a drag) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ExistentialistDesperado33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a183cd/32.png) [@ExistentialistDesperado33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExistentialistDesperado33)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/127 "2011-01-05T20:52:48Z")
^and thanks for the kind words MPB ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/128 "2011-01-05T23:19:26Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Daughters are off limits. It’s your sister/mother/second cousin once removed is so fuckin’ hot. Actually, in my experience, a lot of guys are really over-protective about their sisters, especially younger ones. Saying something sexual about one’s sister was likely to get you pounded. I’ve always been of the whole, “I can make fun of my friends and my family – but YOU can’t. We can bash each other, but if someone else does, it’s ON, motherfucker.” ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/129 "2011-01-05T23:21:37Z")
I know, but I was just going by **Claude** ’s rules. > [@Claude\_Remains](#): > > Mothers and sisters are fair game for verbal jousting, daughters are a protected class. The first time, I let it slide cause it was like 'I cant fuckin believe you just said that". I told my kid and she said that he in the past had crossed that line. She asked me to let her know if it were to come up again because she wanted to stick her foot up his ass. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/130 "2011-01-08T08:58:37Z")
Wives are also off limits, though not as much as daughters. I agree with the previous posters who said that sisters and mothers are fair game. That some guys will kick your ass for talking about their mother/sister isn’t compelling, because there are guys who will kick your ass just for looking at them. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Why do you have to divide women up on how they should be treated? Wouldn’t you want to treat all women well Men are divided up on how well they should be treated. Treating women differently than men may or may not be justified; just be aware that the underlying assumption in your argument (that all men deserve respect so all women do too) is false. The only men who deserve respect are those that earn it. To put it another way, the first time you meet a guy you don’t yet know whether that guy deserves respect. I suspect the key difference is that for women, everyone deserves respect until they personally lose it. (By being cruel, an out of control drunk, etc…) For men, nobody deserves respect until they earn it. (Usually by having your back in a time of need.) This is reflected in the natural tendencies of men to form heirarchies while women tend to gravitate towards a more egalitarian dynamic. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/131 "2011-01-08T15:37:30Z")
Yeah, but do men divide up other men on how they should be treated based on who they’re related to? I don’t see why it should matter for women, then. If a woman acts rude or something, then I don’t think she deserves respect, for example. But that respect shouldn’t be contingent upon her “belonging” to another man whom you respect–like if he’s her daughter. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/132 "2011-01-08T16:09:44Z")
Example, flipping through channels in my living room I stop on one and shout to my friend: “Look bro! It’s your sister!” He looks up, momentarily confused, before seeing the gorilla on the screen. He laughs and flips me off, going back to whatever it was that he was doing. Replacing “sister” with “daughter” would be fucked up. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s just something I’ve been conditioned to think or whatever. But I just have a feeling that it would be fucked up while the joke as it’s prevented above wouldn’t be- at least within the dynamic that I have with my friends. YMMV and all that. Edit: Just to clarify, it doesn’t even particularly matter what his sister actually looks like for the purposes of the joke. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/133 "2011-01-08T16:36:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Replacing “sister” with “daughter” would be fucked up. I don’t know why. because you’re then indirectly insulting his intelligence or appearance by that. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131/134 "2011-01-09T05:17:33Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Example, flipping through channels in my living room I stop on one and shout to my friend: > > “Look bro! It’s your sister!” > > He looks up, momentarily confused, before seeing the gorilla on the screen. He laughs and flips me off, going back to whatever it was that he was doing. This kind of thing wasn’t what I was talking about. It was more expressing anything sexual about one’s sister that would get you pounded. Again, I’m going from most of the people I know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friend-talkin-about-my-daughter/566131.md?page=6)