# Friendly Advice for Drunky

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 9, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618 "2019-12-09T21:18:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/81 "2019-12-10T21:59:37Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What is an Eliza program?

I do not answer questions, sorry. But, why does this question interest you ?

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/82 "2019-12-10T22:00:36Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What is an Eliza program?

Ah, interesting history!

[ELIZA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA) was a computer program (really, a whole class of computer programs) from the early days of computing, where the computer attempts to hold a conversation with you. The link will say this better than I do, but it basically used text manipulation to construct its responses based on what you say to it without it ever having any understanding of the actual content of your messages. (Because obviously it didn’t actually understand you; this was the 1960s.) One of the variants used this as a way of simulating/mocking the type of psychiatrists who respond to “I feel angry” with “What does it mean to you to feel angry” or “How does being angry make you feel?”

Essentially, when you responded with “OK Boomer” by parroting it back with no apparent comprehension of the point of the phrase, you invited comparison to this class of programs that mindlessly parrot things back. And your general failure to comprehend the content of the rest of the posts here doesn’t help either.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/83 "2019-12-11T08:48:50Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> :rolleyes: Looks like we have another conspiracy theorist here. Maybe it’s catching.

I’m no conspiracy theorist, I’m just not blind.

Don’t worry though, I am sure Octopus will be gone soon and you can rest easy.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/84 "2019-12-11T15:32:10Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> He’s too dumb to think of anything else. So he starts squawking about GB. It’s easier to call us “Mean girls” rather than take responsibility for his behavior. I don’t even post in the snark thread there very much. Prior to the last day or so, my last few posts at GB have been about soup, grocery stores, another poster’s poor dog, and Christmas cards. He can’t even get that right.
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> I wasn’t the one to bring it up, but I don’t know if talking about GB is allowed even in the Pit. I’ll stop until I know for sure.

Dumb, he ain’t. I knew someone IRL who was exactly like ol’ Pussy. He was an outwardly normal guy who delighted in being a provocateur, and who was very good at it. It takes talent to choose the exact words that will send someone over the edge of reason in a very short period of time. The guy went after me one evening, and even though I knew what he was doing, I had him backed into a corner in about ten minutes, with other people pulling me off before I did any serious damage.

He was a veritable Hannibal Lecter; a person whose mission in life was to get into others’ heads and fuck with them. But he was also a coward. His response to physical threat was to stand still and say “My hands are in my pockets.” Perhaps our eight-legged friend is that same person, but 30 years older. It amuses me to read what he writes, but I usually know better than to step into that trap.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/85 "2019-12-11T15:42:02Z")

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I thought it was funny when oct called his detractors “potty mouth,” but he hasn’t followed up with anything noteworthy.

Maybe if he had called Drunky that, it would have straightened him out.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/86 "2019-12-11T16:14:24Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Ok boomers!
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> I’d run out of Woke Buzzword Bingo Stamps if I were to break them out again for this thread just on those 3 posts.

I defy you to even find a single Woke Buzzword in those posts. You really should choose your stock rejoinders with better care.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/87 "2019-12-11T16:14:40Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I thought it was funny when oct called his detractors “potty mouth,” but he hasn’t followed up with anything noteworthy.
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> Maybe if he had called Drunky that, it would have straightened him out.

Drunky tried too hard to get a potty mouth stamp. Drunky strikes me as someone who isn’t quite right.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/88 "2019-12-11T16:17:31Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I defy you to even find a single Woke Buzzword in those posts. You really should choose your stock rejoinders with better care.

Racist, misogynistic, right wing troll is a woke buzzword trifecta.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/89 "2019-12-11T16:21:42Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What is an Eliza program?

I understand you are interested in Eliza program.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/90 "2019-12-11T16:22:26Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I understand you are interested in Eliza program.

I am!

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/91 "2019-12-11T16:27:54Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> I’m no conspiracy theorist, I’m just not blind.

I’m sure that’s literally what the Flat Earth believers say…

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> Don’t worry though, I am sure Octopus will be gone soon and you can rest easy.

I’m afraid as much as I loathe the oleaginous little sack of shit, I can think of 10 worse posters without even trying. He’s just middling evil of a mildly irritating stripe. Like a Nazi-sympathizing mosquito…

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/92 "2019-12-11T16:28:11Z")

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How does I am make you feel?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/93 "2019-12-11T16:35:24Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Racist, misogynistic, right wing troll is a woke buzzword trifecta.

Fuck off to your safe space. Whiny little cunt.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/94 "2019-12-11T17:16:10Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Fuck off to your safe space. Whiny little cunt.

By popular demand! That gets a potty mouth.

Even though its being a tryhard.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/95 "2019-12-11T17:20:54Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Racist, misogynistic, right wing troll is a woke buzzword trifecta.

Ok but that was only in one of the three posts you quoted.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/96 "2019-12-11T17:24:53Z")

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Goal post shifting makes octopus sad.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/97 "2019-12-11T17:32:29Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Racist, misogynistic, right wing troll is a woke buzzword trifecta.

Are you not aware that I took that “woke buzzword trifecta” from your very post I quoted, you drooling idiot? Who’s using buzzwords now?

> [@octopus](#):
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> Your dart board of racist!, misogyny!, old white men!, right wing troll! is so predictable nowadays.
> 
> Huddle up with the mean girls and come up with some new buzzwords. Please.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/98 "2019-12-11T17:52:46Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> I wasn’t the one to bring it up, but I don’t know if talking about GB is allowed even in the Pit.

It’s allowed.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/99 "2019-12-11T21:56:26Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Dumb, he ain’t. I knew someone IRL who was exactly like ol’ Pussy. He was an outwardly normal guy who delighted in being a provocateur, and who was very good at it. It takes talent to choose the exact words that will send someone over the edge of reason in a very short period of time. The guy went after me one evening, and even though I knew what he was doing, I had him backed into a corner in about ten minutes, with other people pulling me off before I did any serious damage.
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> He was a veritable Hannibal Lecter; a person whose mission in life was to get into others’ heads and fuck with them. But he was also a coward. His response to physical threat was to stand still and say “My hands are in my pockets.” Perhaps our eight-legged friend is that same person, but 30 years older. It amuses me to read what he writes, but I usually know better than to step into that trap.

With much respect, I think you give him too much credit. I do agree he’s a coward, however.

As long as he flings his desperate insults in the Pit, big deal. It’s when he poisons the rest of the board with his intolerance and misogyny that he’s a major part of the problems here. People don’t want to deal with that crap and leave. I did for quite a few months and I know I’m not the only one.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friendly-advice-for-drunky/844618/100 "2019-12-11T21:58:54Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Goal post shifting makes octopus sad.

Hey daddy-o, did you even look for a job this week?

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