# Friggen amazing, support for Memories Pizza **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 3, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750 "2015-04-03T22:05:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/21 "2015-04-04T03:22:19Z")
Pretty much any time an individual or organization gets into the news and it has something to do with a political or social issue (gay rights, feminism, whatever), they will get: 1. Death threats, and 2. Contributions from people who support their cause This does not surprise me in the slightest, nor does it sadden or gladden me. It is just something that happens. I sort of wish there were a better way to track down the death threat people to keep _that_ from happening, but apart from that I’m not too worked up over it. As **jsgoddess** pointed out, this is hardly a sustainable model. Are these people going to send in a million bucks every time another business pops up announcing they won’t serve gay people? And really, is this sort of media hoopla really good for business long-term? ---
**Author:** ![Elemenopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@Elemenopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elemenopy)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/22 "2015-04-04T03:27:23Z")
I used to live one town over from their location. It’s a shithole, to put it mildly. This will be the highlight of the owners’ (and probably their neighbors’) lives. That’s about all I have to say about that. I’m really proud to live in Indiana again right about now. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/23 "2015-04-04T03:27:46Z")
That’s it. I’m moving to Greenland or something. Maybe Mars. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/24 "2015-04-04T03:41:22Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I sort of wish there were a better way to track down the death threat people to keep _that_ from happening, but apart from that I’m not too worked up over it. Indeed. People threatening death or some sort of illegal retribution is not okay, I don’t care how freaky, stupid, Nazi-like, or jerkish people are. They shouldn’t be threatened with anything but boycotts and mockery, where warranted. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/25 "2015-04-04T04:41:12Z")
> [@Elemenopy](#): > > I used to live one town over from their location. It’s a shithole, to put it mildly. This will be the highlight of the owners’ (and probably their neighbors’) lives. That’s about all I have to say about that. > > I’m really proud to live in Indiana again right about now. :rolleyes: Is anywhere in Indiana not a shit hole? I’m honestly asking. ---
**Author:** ![Elemenopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@Elemenopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elemenopy)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/26 "2015-04-04T05:03:24Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > Is anywhere in Indiana not a shit hole? I’m honestly asking. Pfft. Sputter. Well, it’s relative. There are shitholes, and _shitholes_. I’m living in another one, unfortunately. But not nearly as bad as Walkerton, Indiana. If you’re asking honestly, much of the area by Lake Michigan isn’t too bad…I basically grew up there. (We don’t speak about Gary, though.) Indianapolis is pretty hip, too, though I haven’t had much chance to explore lately. There are, oddly, probably more college towns per square mile than any other state, and many of those are nice in their own way. Bloomington/Brown County is tons of fun if you’re doing it right. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/27 "2015-04-04T13:04:25Z")
> [@Elemenopy](#): > > Pfft. Sputter. Well, it’s relative. There are shitholes, and _shitholes_. I’m living in another one, unfortunately. But not nearly as bad as Walkerton, Indiana. > > If you’re asking honestly, much of the area by Lake Michigan isn’t too bad…I basically grew up there. (We don’t speak about Gary, though.) Indianapolis is pretty hip, too, though I haven’t had much chance to explore lately. There are, oddly, probably more college towns per square mile than any other state, and many of those are nice in their own way. Bloomington/Brown County is tons of fun if you’re doing it right. Don’t write copy for the Indiana board of tourism. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/28 "2015-04-04T13:10:39Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > The most amazing part of this story is, who the hell orders pizza for a wedding? > > Is this really a thing? We had pizza for our rehearsal dinner, which they also would have presumably refused to cater (well, not ours. A gay couple’s rehearsal dinner I mean). Of course all we did was order a bunch of pizzas for pickup and bring them to the space, so non one had any idea what all the pizza was for anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/29 "2015-04-04T14:17:18Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > As I understand it, the donations were motivated in large part by the pizza place’s closing. That closing was, in turn, motivated by a plethora of threats delivered by members of the stalwart left-wing tolerance brigade, to include threats of arson. > > And of course the tolerance brigade made its appearance because of the Christ-like behavior of the pizza place owners, who apparently believe the Good Samaritan would have verified that the stranded traveler was a strict hetereo before providing any assistance. > > The pizza idiots are…well… Bigoted idiots. > > But the “Step 2 …???” ignorance doesn’t meet the standard of fair commentary either. Step 2 was a parade of threats against the bigoted idiots by other idiots, which turned a theoretical threat into actual economic loss, which in turn was the hook upon which donations were premised. Cut the crap. The saw the opportunity to become “martyrs” and make money, and took it, then they closed the shop for hype. After the money and fame reaches a certain point they will “bravely” re-open the shop while people like you use them as a symbol. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/30 "2015-04-04T14:47:46Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Indeed. People threatening death or some sort of illegal retribution is not okay, I don’t care how freaky, stupid, Nazi-like, or jerkish people are. They shouldn’t be threatened with anything but boycotts and mockery, where warranted. I think this is the lesson that needs to come from this. Had those who wished to protest bigotry responded as responsible adults, instead of threatening violence and arson, things would have been very different. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/31 "2015-04-04T14:48:35Z")
The only thing that I take consolation in is that every dollar donated to this “cause”, is one less dollar that can go to something even worse. It also underscores why it’s so important not to assume the free market will fix social problems. The free market is amoral. It doesn’t care about fairness or decency. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/32 "2015-04-04T14:58:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Cut the crap. The saw the opportunity to become “martyrs” and make money, and took it, then they closed the shop for hype. After the money and fame reaches a certain point they will “bravely” re-open the shop while people like you use them as a symbol. Got a hard-on for **Bricker** , have you? What’s he going to use them as a symbol for? ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/33 "2015-04-04T15:05:40Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Is this really a thing? It’s not. ISTR the story itself or follow up including that they’d never actually catered a wedding. Their hypothetical both earned them death/arson threats and most of a million dollars. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/34 "2015-04-04T15:30:17Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > That closing was, in turn, motivated by a plethora of threats delivered by members of the stalwart left-wing tolerance brigade, to include threats of arson. I’ve seen this claim before and it’s bullshit. I’m not talking about the threats. If they occurred then they were wrong. Nobody should be threatening other people with arson or other forms of violence. But the hypocrisy you’re implying does not exist. There is no equivalence between conservatives being opposed to homosexuals and liberals being opposed to bigots. Homophobia is wrong. It’s just like racism or sexism or anti-semitism. Treating people poorly because they are of a different sexual orientation or race or gender or religion is wrong. Fighting these forms of intolerance is right. People should openly oppose intolerance. A business owner that refuses to serve a gay customer should be shamed by society. And people that refuse to patronize that business because of its intolerance should be proud of the stand they’ve taken. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/35 "2015-04-04T15:37:23Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Heh. > Given the other threads here on the SDMB I almost have to LOL. > > “The market speaks”. LOL again. How’s that working for ya? > > Kinda sucks when “you” are on the" loo$ng" end doesn’t it? > > Fuck it. I did LOL. How did anyone lose in this? right wing nutjobs giving their money to smarter right wing nutjobs willing to exploit them is par for the course. Did you think any of that money was going to planned parenthood donations instead or something? If anything the only ones who lost anything here are right wing republican nutjobs like Ted Cruz who would have gotten that money instead. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/36 "2015-04-04T18:09:12Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > How did anyone lose in this? right wing nutjobs giving their money to smarter right wing nutjobs willing to exploit them is par for the course. Did you think any of that money was going to planned parenthood donations instead or something? If anything the only ones who lost anything here are right wing republican nutjobs like Ted Cruz who would have gotten that money instead. Indeed. I don’t feel like the anti-discrimination anti-homophobia side has lost anything. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/37 "2015-04-04T19:12:18Z")
We lost one hypothetical pizza. I’ll cover it. ---
**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/38 "2015-04-04T19:20:53Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > The most amazing part of this story is, who the hell orders pizza for a wedding? > > Is this really a thing? I wish we’d had pizza at my daughters’s wedding. I paid a few thousand for art food. Pretty enough, but not much of a meal. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/39 "2015-04-04T19:26:27Z")
Predictions: The law will become so unpopular, and backlash will become so large at first, that almost no other businesses will publicly discriminate, even if it is legal. Then, when almost nothing changes, the lazy public will stop caring that this law is on their books, and it will stay on the books, like a bunch of other outdated, absurd laws cooked up by batshits that no one ever bothered to repeal. So, overall, a massive win for the equal rights side, because it shows that society actually supports equality, but then people will forget to do the thing that is necessary here, and toss that law in the trash. It’s like those states with laws that say atheists can’t serve in public office, that no one does anything about, because they’re unenforceable. It’s still effing insulting. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750/40 "2015-04-04T19:58:57Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Predictions: > > The law will become so unpopular, and backlash will become so large at first, that almost no other businesses will publicly discriminate, even if it is legal. Am I really the only person who knows the [law has been amended](https://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/indiana-legislators-unveil-amendment-religious-freedom-restoration-act_906918.html)? The only downside is we can never prove if **Bricker** was right. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/friggen-amazing-support-for-memories-pizza/716750.md?page=3)