# Fringe 5/20/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 21, 2010, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224 "2010-05-21T05:24:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/21 "2010-05-22T01:31:56Z")
Do we know how long she’s been the dark room? Maybe that scene is right before the next episode in four months. ---
**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/22 "2010-05-22T02:45:59Z")
Pretty sure Peter will be the first to realize that this ain’t our Olivia. Didn’t his line of your eyes are darker to the Alt-Olivia set up his eventual realization. I hope he does figure it out by her eyes. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/23 "2010-05-22T03:02:50Z")
I missed something crucial. **When** did the Olivia swap take place? Before or after the kiss? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/24 "2010-05-22T03:07:35Z")
> [@Meltdown](#): > > Also liked the comic books on Peter’s wall. “Red Lantern / Red Arrow.” What I assume is “Dark Superman.” Definitely put in by nerds for nerds. I appreciated that. [DC’s got the alternate universe covers up on the DCU blog.](http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/05/21/geoff-johns-and-hank-kanalz-on-last-night%E2%80%99s-fringe-alternate-universe-covers/) They’re Red Lantern/Red Arrow, The Death of Batman\*, The Man of Steel Returns, and…slightly altered versions of Crisis on Infinite Earths 7 and Justice League 1. - Which is issue 75 of…whatever title it is. Presumably ‘Batman’, which probably got the Superman treatment after Crisis in this universe. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/25 "2010-05-22T03:17:32Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I missed something crucial. **When** did the Olivia swap take place? Before or after the kiss? They showed Altivia behind Olivia with a gun just as Olivia told Bell to duck as she threw the grenade - They also showed a head nod or something between BBoyles and Atlivia just prior, indicating that was the plan at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/26 "2010-05-23T00:32:58Z")
Closed captioning identifies alt Olivia as _Bolivia_. For your consideration… ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/27 "2010-05-23T01:23:04Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > [DC’s got the alternate universe covers up on the DCU blog.](http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/05/21/geoff-johns-and-hank-kanalz-on-last-night%E2%80%99s-fringe-alternate-universe-covers/) > > They’re Red Lantern/Red Arrow, The Death of Batman\*, The Man of Steel Returns, and…slightly altered versions of Crisis on Infinite Earths 7 and Justice League 1. > > - Which is issue 75 of…whatever title it is. Presumably ‘Batman’, which probably got the Superman treatment after Crisis in this universe. Awesome link, thanks dude! Yeah, that would be Batman 75, replacing [Superman 75](http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/comic-covers/Post-Crisis-Classic-Covers/superman75a.jpg). I like that they even included the little “triangle number” all the Superman titles had in that era so you knew which order to read them in. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/28 "2010-05-23T02:19:12Z")
What I didn’t quite get was, Walter kept saying that Olivia wouldn’t be able to use her superpowers in the absence of the other Cortexifan Superfriends, which is why Bell had them jury rig the technological amplifier. But there was nothing to amplify!! Altivia has no Cortexifan powers! How did they return to our universe? ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/29 "2010-05-23T02:21:14Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > What I didn’t quite get was, Walter kept saying that Olivia wouldn’t be able to use her superpowers in the absence of the other Cortexifan Superfriends, which is why Bell had them jury rig the technological amplifier. But there was nothing to amplify!! Altivia has no Cortexifan powers! How did they return to our universe? Unless you do it the way Walter did then crossing over universes makes your molecules unstable. Bell crossed over so many times that he basically exploded which fueled the amplifier. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/30 "2010-05-23T02:22:01Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > [DC’s got the alternate universe covers up on the DCU blog.](http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/05/21/geoff-johns-and-hank-kanalz-on-last-night%E2%80%99s-fringe-alternate-universe-covers/) > > They’re Red Lantern/Red Arrow, The Death of Batman\*, The Man of Steel Returns, and…slightly altered versions of Crisis on Infinite Earths 7 and Justice League 1. > > - Which is issue 75 of…whatever title it is. Presumably ‘Batman’, which probably got the Superman treatment after Crisis in this universe. Sweet link. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224/31 "2010-05-23T10:05:42Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Here’s a question, that “quarantine” method, haven’t we seen that before? Back in early season one, there was an episode where some guy froze an entire bus in an Amber like substance. Was he from the other side? I do remember that; good call. Guess we have to assume he was from the other side now, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-5-20-10/540224.md?page=1)