# Fringe - October 14, 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 15, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719 "2011-10-15T05:13:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/1 "2011-10-15T05:13:06Z")
Well, I thought that was a pretty good episode. I’m glad they brought Peter back quickly. Frankly, I wonder if by the end of this season he’ll restore the original timeline. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/2 "2011-10-15T05:55:11Z")
I really enjoyed that. Yay! Peter’s back! I’d like to see Walter more eccentric, and less bat-shit crazy, like he used to be, but I guess they’re illustrating the difference that Peter made in him. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/3 "2011-10-15T06:15:07Z")
[Here’s an interesting video](http://www.hypable.com/fringe/2011/10/12/fringe-video-josh-jackson-explains-why-they-erased-peter/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fringe-video-josh-jackson-explains-why-they-erased-peter) that sheds some light on what happened. ---
**Author:** ![HenryGale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b782af/32.png) [@HenryGale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HenryGale)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/4 "2011-10-15T22:22:48Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > [Here’s an interesting video](http://www.hypable.com/fringe/2011/10/12/fringe-video-josh-jackson-explains-why-they-erased-peter/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fringe-video-josh-jackson-explains-why-they-erased-peter) that sheds some light on what happened. Whoah, kind of disorienting to hear John Noble talk in his real voice. I only know him from Fringe and LOTR, and had NO idea he was Australian. Cool. ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/5 "2011-10-16T02:24:42Z")
It was nice to go back to the cortexiphan kids again. Another aspect of the old universe that’s different in the current version. I guess the trial participants that joined Olivia and Walter in their red-side adventure are not dead in the current configuration. ETA: You know that Anna Torv is also an Aussie, right? Look for the Paley Center talks to hear them both use their real voices. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/6 "2011-10-16T09:39:52Z")
So, Peter eventually succeeds in emerging into this timeline where he doesn’t exist. I’m supposing he wasn’t necessarily incorporeal, but either lost between universes, or perhaps even in the original “blue” universe. Which brings up some questions. He seemed quite stymied that no one knew who he was. Also, I think building the machine in 2026 and bringing the bridge between worlds was only half the plan. Future Walter and Peter must’ve known there might be unpredictable consequences, but I’m thinking Peter wasn’t ready for the fact he’d return to a timeline where he still died as a boy. In the preview for this coming episode, Peter exclaims: “Walter, you have to help me figure out what went wrong!” The Observers maybe? It also raises a question that’s been bugging me. A paradox: If the time machine was built for Peter to move 15 years into the future, then hatch a plan in the future with his dad to alter the past, thereby leading to his demise as a child… in this new “orange” timeline, where Peter didn’t survive his childhood, who activated the machine? Olivia? Or maybe for them is was merely built, but they were scratching their heads over what to do next? I hope we get some mind-bending, yet satisfying answers! I like how Peter re-incorporated probably in the same spot he fell through the ice and drowned. Good episode. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/7 "2011-10-16T09:56:36Z")
The producers say they have answers. I just hope that they’re good ones. ---
**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/8 "2011-10-16T17:49:07Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > The producers say they have answers. I just hope that they’re good ones. But didn’t _Lost_ have the same producers? Or are they both just J.J. Abrams shows? ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/9 "2011-10-16T19:18:31Z")
> [@MidnightRadio](#): > > But didn’t _Lost_ have the same producers? Or are they both just J.J. Abrams shows? Did Lost have Jeff Pinkner and Joel Wyman as producers? Oh, and while looking up the producer’s names I came across [this](http://www.hypable.com/fringe/2011/09/23/fringe-producers-promise-not-to-keep-peter-from-the-fans-for-long/). > [@Hypable.com](#): > > Wyman also teases whether or not we’ll finally meet the alternate Nina Sharp: > > ``` > I don’t think it’s giving too much away to say we’re going to treat the much-anticipated understanding of Nina Sharp “over there” — we’re going to try and treat it with the same sort of, “Oh my gosh!” as we have with the other aspects [of our story]. > > ``` I’m going to make a prediction Alt Nina is responsible for the new shape shifters ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/10 "2011-10-16T19:45:29Z")
Alt Nina will have a human hand and the rest of her will be a robot - my prediction. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/11 "2011-10-17T00:23:32Z")
Oh, poor Peter. All that trouble to finally get back, and his girl doesn’t even know who he is! This will be a tough row to hoe. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/12 "2011-10-17T05:22:07Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Oh, poor Peter. All that trouble to finally get back, and his girl doesn’t even know who he is! This will be a tough row to hoe. I wish I could think of a funny reply with the words “an easy hoe to row” in it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/13 "2011-10-17T05:46:06Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > I wish I could think of a funny reply with the words “an easy hoe to row” in it. 😃 Sounds like an **EastEnders** ref 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/14 "2011-10-17T05:50:48Z")
I’ve heard of the show, but being a bloody yank I’ve never seen it. Even if it’s on BBC America I’ve still never seen it. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/15 "2011-10-19T18:22:49Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Well, I thought that was a pretty good episode. I’m glad they brought Peter back quickly. Quickly? The season’s like a quarter or more over!:smack: > [@Nobody](#): > > I’m going to make a prediction > > Alt Nina is responsible for the new shape shifters Spoiler tag removed from quote because speculation is not a spoiler Maybe she’s responsible for all the blimps, too! 😃 There was a really funny moment in this episode where Walter called Astrid by the wrong name and she was all “that doesn’t even start with A.” Looks like this coming week is a rerun for some reason. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/16 "2011-10-19T19:43:36Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Quickly? The season’s like a quarter or more over!:smack: I mean it only took three episodes to bring him back. They could have drawn it out much longer. > [@](#): > > Looks like this coming week is a rerun for some reason. ☹ :eek: NNNNNOOOOOOOO!!! ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/17 "2011-10-19T21:18:51Z")
World Series. They always go into reruns/hiatus then. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlehead02](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rattlehead02/32/3944_2.png) [@Rattlehead02](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rattlehead02)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/18 "2011-10-19T22:18:33Z")
> [@tanstaafl](#): > > World Series. They always go into reruns/hiatus then. Which fits with your username\*. That is, without the World Series (well, MLB in general) money Fox may not be as willing to keep a low rating, yet critical and devoted fan darling, on the air. Jeff \*For those unaware: TANSTAAFL - There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/19 "2011-10-19T23:33:39Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > I’ve heard of the show, but being a bloody yank I’ve never seen it. > > Even if it’s on BBC America I’ve still never seen it. Um…it’s on Fox. In America. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719/20 "2011-10-20T00:11:07Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > I’ve heard of the show, but being a bloody yank I’ve never seen it. > > Even if it’s on BBC America I’ve still never seen it. Yeah, dude, this is an American show. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-october-14-2011/599719.md?page=2)