# Fringe Season 5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 28, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172 "2012-09-28T18:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/41 "2012-11-04T02:44:27Z")
Yeah, I wonder if Peter is ultimately going to sacrifice himself (again) to save the world and his family. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/42 "2012-11-04T03:01:49Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Yeah, I wonder if Peter is ultimately going to sacrifice himself (again) to save the world and his family. Well, last time, it was actually Walter that sacrificed Olivia. It would be nice if Walter would sacrifice himself this time. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/43 "2012-11-04T04:02:26Z")
Was it just me - or did the “Resist” posters featuring Etta only show up AFTER the turn a wormhole into a blackhole ‘failure’? I did love the quote - felt like a moment from the past “You don’t even know what you don’t know” ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/44 "2012-11-05T02:00:08Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Well, last time, it was actually Walter that sacrificed Olivia. It would be nice if Walter would sacrifice himself this time. I’ve been predicting Walter sacrificing himself so Olivia and Peter(and the world) can undo what has been done by the observers. He feels responsible for so much and his death would be powerful. > [@simster](#): > > Was it just me - or did the “Resist” posters featuring Etta only show up AFTER the turn a wormhole into a blackhole ‘failure’? I thought so, too. They made a point of showing Olivia noticing the “The Future is Order” signs before…and then she notices the resist signs at the end. ---
**Author:** ![mage-girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mage-girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mage-girl)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/45 "2012-11-11T00:09:21Z")
Did you watch on Friday 11/9? I felt bad when they went off and left Astrid. Uh, the poor thing doesn’t even have a knife, you guys, and she certainly wouldn’t be able to fight off an Observer! But… Peter! Holy crap! ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/46 "2012-11-11T00:14:28Z")
Yeah, I am constantly worried they’re going to kill off Asteroid as we approach the home stretch of this series. Her twin in the other universe died, right? I know that doesn’t mean our Astrid will die, too. I’m just trying to remember… Peter’s fight with the Observer was pretty bad-ass. He is becoming Neo. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/47 "2012-11-11T01:10:45Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Peter’s fight with the Observer was pretty bad-ass. He is becoming Neo. 🙂 When he started kicking the observer’s ass, I turned to my wife and said in my best Laurence Fishburne “He is beginning to believe.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/48 "2012-11-11T01:54:20Z")
However, with the Observer whose butt he kicked’s comment and the Boss Observer’s smirk, I surmise there’s some side-effects Peter doesn’t expect but they know will happen. OMG, I know what it is. Peter is gonna lose all his hair. :faints: ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/49 "2012-11-11T02:21:25Z")
When Walter first entered that room that nobody had been in in twenty years and there was a lamp on the table turned on, I wondered if the people making this show even cared anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/50 "2012-11-11T02:42:35Z")
Which room? Was it before he went into the pocket universe? Because inside the pocket universe it had only been days, not 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/51 "2012-11-11T02:45:44Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > When Walter first entered that room that nobody had been in in twenty years and there was a lamp on the table turned on, I wondered if the people making this show even cared anymore. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/52 "2012-11-11T02:48:05Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Which room? Was it before he went into the pocket universe? Because inside the pocket universe it had only been days, not 20 years. Yes, the room he entered before entering the pocket universe had a lit lamp on a table, seen as soon as he walks in. ---
**Author:** ![mikews99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@mikews99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikews99)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/53 "2012-11-11T04:03:23Z")
And just after Walter enters that room, we hear the click of a light switch (though we don’t see Walter move his arm), hence the lit lamp. It’s likely the editor caught it and had foley insert the sound effect. I’m betting one of the grips thought, “Crap, the gaffer forgot about this lamp. Better light it up before he gets pissed.” ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/54 "2012-11-11T04:52:36Z")
Regarding The Matrix and Neo, we were noticing those strong similarities, too. Apparently Peter is The One. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/55 "2012-11-12T06:45:34Z")
I have to say, I had higher hopes for the pocket universe as far as how strange and unsettling it was going to be. I mean, I guess the show did a few things, but it mostly just looked like a slightly dingier copy of the regular universe. And it seemed like a waste to have the guy they found inside wind up as nothing more than target practice for the Observers. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/56 "2012-11-12T07:02:35Z")
The death of the guy in the pocket universe (Cecil–ha!) is weighing heavily on Walter. It is helping push him toward (I now believe) ultimately sacrificing himself to save the world. ---
**Author:** ![D-bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@D-bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D-bear)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/57 "2012-11-12T07:53:35Z")
I expected the Time Trapper to have Superboy hanging out somewhere. Color me dissapoint. Would have been tres cool! [Pocket Universe](http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Pocket_Universe) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/58 "2012-11-12T11:16:33Z")
You remind me of a babe. What babe? The babe with the power. What power? The power of voodoo. Who do? You do. Do what? Remind me of a babe. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/59 "2012-11-12T15:23:36Z")
This will never, in a million, billion years happen. But…y’know what would be cool? If douchy, selfish (“My grief is SO much more important than everyone else’s!”) ol’ Peter\*, by “infecting” himself with Observer tech ends up becoming the first Observer and turns bad, which is why the Observers were all that interested in him in the first place. I mean, it’s never been explained why Peter was so all-fired important to the Observers, was it? If he’s their founder/father, it all makes sense. It also explains why they came back to NOW rather than, say, the 1840s when pollution (in the cities at least) was far worse. Because NOW is when Peter is and they can’t screw up the timeline before he’s born. \*I really don’t like Peter as a character. Love the job the actor’s doing with him though. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172/60 "2012-11-12T15:39:38Z")
Oh, good idea. Peter is the main, old bad Observer guy. I like it. A lot. Of course, that leads to a bit of circular logic as for when and how the tech was developed that creates Observers, but this show is nearly off the rails by now anyway. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fringe-season-5/636172.md?page=4)