# From a Christian perspective - What's the case against pre-destination?

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**Created:** [May 4, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-a-christian-perspective-whats-the-case-against-pre-destination/1001144 "2024-05-04T20:54:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-a-christian-perspective-whats-the-case-against-pre-destination/1001144/24 "2024-05-06T05:43:26Z")

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> [@survinga](#):
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> If everything is pre-destined, then it’s all meaningless in my view. Why even send Jesus down to Earth to save us if it’s pre-destined. There’s no point. He would already know which one of us is going to Hell.

Let’s say I’m writing a book. The main character embodies righteousness, according to me. As the author, I already know which people will shun my main character. I have always known thus, from the moment I wrote each character. I reward and punish my characters as I see fit. The rewards and pubishments, like everything else in the book, are predetermined. Does that make it pointless _for me_ to write the book? Are the supporting characters superfluous because I, the author, have always known their ultimate fate? Is a book pointless because _its author_ knows the ending?

~Max

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