Own the book, read it years ago.
Addressing your links:
I love the Pew Center, and had I the time I would probably find it edifying to read that whole report. But you can’t just throw out a link to a PDF of a 40 page report, as one of four links in one part of one post of one thread on one debate board. How about quoting the portion you’d like to point to?
Also a regular reader and occasional commenter on TNC’s Atlantic blog. Interesting guy but way, way too pessimistic about the pervasiveness and effect of racism, given that he thinks it is getting worse and will destroy this country. I see a lot of progress and reason for optimism, but maybe that’s just me (no, wait–it’s not).
But even he, in the excerpt at your Chicago Magazine link, describes the housing exploitation of high-income blacks continuing “into the 1960s”. How you can cite that as an explanation for poor SAT scores by high-SEC black kids in 1995, I just don’t see. (Would BTW love if there were some more recent data than that–anyone know of some?)
Okay, then you just link separately to the blog post already excerpted at Chicago Magazine. Who is engaging in sloppy/lazy debating now? Sheesh.
Finally, another TNC link, and a more germane one: “A Rising Tide Lifts All Yachts”, discussing a Patrick Sharkey book with lots of excerpts. But this looks to me like a classic case of “lies, damn lies, and statistics”. The first Sharkey quote refers to blacks in the “top three quintiles”; since there are by definition only five quintiles total, this lumps the richest African Americans in with some who are below the median. Why would he do this? Was it necessary to massage the statistics this way to get the result he wanted? Comes across as fishy–some kind of detailed table or chart is needed here.
Then in the same quote, Sharkey goes on to say (since the “top three quintiles” group was born from 1955 to 1970): “This degree of racial inequality is not a remnant of the past. Two out of three black children born from 1985 through 2000 have been raised in neighborhoods with at least 20 percent poverty…” Wait, now we’re talking about the top five quintiles? What happened to this being a discussion of upper income blacks? Why can’t we just hear about the top quintile, or (dare I dream) maybe even decile? Would doing so reveal that such families do not tend to live in poor neighbourhoods, yet their kids still test poorly?
And if high-income African Americans are doing such a disservice to their kids by staying in these neighbourhoods, shouldn’t they move? I don’t think there’s any credible argument that (at least outside the Deep South, maybe) a high income family of any race can let their money do the talking in a tony suburb.
TNC refers to “spurious comparisons between Appalachia and Harlem”. Does he (and do you) really think dirt-poor Appalachian whites have a great shot at rising to the top echelons of SES? I would recommend reading Barbara Ehrenreich’s Nickel and Dimed. There is a yawning gulf, far beyond just money, between people raised in poor uneducated white rural America and those raised by white urban elites with longstanding connections and the knowledge of how to socially navigate the glass-and-steel jungle. That class divide is something I sincerely decry, among all races. But to pooh-pooh it for rural whites, to try to explain away a stunning and troubling IQ finding, does not sit well with me.
And so to argue that being a prototypical poor white person–say a rural white Kentuckyan, raised by a morbidly obese single mom along with four siblings, in a dilapidated trailer–gives you some kind of cultural advantage that allows you to do better on the SAT than a child raised by parents who have more money (and let’s face it, most likely quite a bit of education too in most cases outside of sports and entertainment) than my parents ever did or than I’ve ever had; parents who can hire tutors and send kids to private school and buy books and learning games and on down the line…I just find that way too much to swallow.
Now, just to be clear: if we were comparing straight across income lines, and whites did better, I would buy this. That is, if affluent blacks did worse than affluent whites, and poor blacks did worse than poor whites, but the race difference was a smaller one than the SES difference, I would buy that being black added an extra environmental disadvantage unrelated to genetics. And in fact, it probably does add such a disadvantage. But for that to be enough to cause the highest income blacks, who grew up way wealthier than I did, to score worse than the poorest whites, who grew up way poorer (and with way less cultural capital) than I did? No, that is a bridge too far.
And it kind of blows up my alternate non-genetic fallback hypothesis as well: that the IQ deficit mostly comes from lead poisoning. Unless wealthy blacks are still just hanging out in old buildings with lots of chipped paint everywhere–in which case, why on earth? Get outta there, rich black folks! C’mon now.