# From Man of Iron to Man of Bronze **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 7, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741 "2013-05-07T20:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/1 "2013-05-07T20:41:33Z")
[Shane Black has been picked to co-write and direct Doc Savage.](http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/shane-black-doc-savage-movie-director-co-writer-sony/) The Magnificent Seven ride again! ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/2 "2013-05-07T21:31:54Z")
I’ll be superalgamated! ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/3 "2013-05-07T21:51:44Z")
I’m sorry. I’m stupid. There’s no mention of a western in that article… sooo… what’s the Magnificent Seven reference? ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/4 "2013-05-07T21:54:49Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I’m sorry. I’m stupid. There’s no mention of a western in that article… sooo… what’s the Magnificent Seven reference? I assume it’s the five team members, plus Pat and Doc himself. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/5 "2013-05-07T21:59:19Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > I assume it’s the five team members, plus Pat and Doc himself. Ah. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/6 "2013-05-07T22:05:58Z")
This is just the break Ron Ely has been waiting for… ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/7 "2013-05-07T22:18:39Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I’m sorry. I’m stupid. There’s no mention of a western in that article… sooo… what’s the Magnificent Seven reference? [These five, plus his cousin Pat, plus Doc, equals seven.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_savage#Doc_Savage.27s_aides) ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/8 "2013-05-07T22:20:17Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > [These five, plus his cousin Pat, plus Doc, equals seven.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_savage#Doc_Savage.27s_aides) Ah. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/9 "2013-05-08T01:42:46Z")
Pleasepleaseplease have John Sunlight. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/10 "2013-05-08T01:45:39Z")
Come on, Monk and Ham! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/11 "2013-05-08T02:52:33Z")
But who should play Clark Savage Jr.? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/12 "2013-05-08T10:06:05Z")
(makes a trilling sound which seems to come from everywhere) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/13 "2013-05-08T15:51:33Z")
Those gold flecks in the eyes-have you seen a doctor about that? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/14 "2013-05-08T16:15:27Z")
Cool. It should grab almost half the John Carter crowd. You’re guaranteed to get a good seat. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/15 "2013-05-08T19:42:08Z")
[The Code of Doc Savage](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VSg07gQRqY#t=22s). I doubt that this will end well, even if it’s made, but I’ll still watch it. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/16 "2013-05-08T21:04:16Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > But who should play Clark Savage Jr.? Before George Pal made the movie with Ron Ely, there was talk of a TV series, starring Chuck Connors. That might have been good. (Probably would have been terrible, but it could have been good!) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/17 "2013-05-08T23:52:25Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Those gold flecks in the eyes-have you seen a doctor about that? That’s copper rings. But who could play him? Ely’s still looking good for 75, but he’s still 75. I was first introduced to Doc Savage through Farmer’s biography. I mean, I liked pulp SF but Doc was new and really, truly pulpy. Got a book about the great pulp heroes around here somewhere… ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/18 "2013-05-08T23:54:12Z")
I hope they put his headquarters on top of the new World Trade Center - much more up to date than the ESB. I have around 90 of the Bantam pbs and one of the original magazine issues, and I’ll believe it when I see it. Though maybe they can use some plotlines from Phil Farmer. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/19 "2013-05-09T00:36:58Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Cool. It should grab almost half the John Carter crowd. You’re guaranteed to get a good seat. 😃 Now, now, let’s not be mean to the fans. At least they can expect that with Shane Black at work on it, Sony may actually try to market the movie as opposed to how Disney seemed to decide\* John Carter But For Og’s Sake Let’s Not Mention Mars\* would be a writeoff right upon the wrap. Old school pulp superheroes IMO do have a rough time when it comes to film/TV these days – Doc’s niche in the heroics/adventure ecosystem gets kind of cornered by Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark and Bond/Bourne types, who all have the stylish “dark” weaknesses that modern audiences are supposed to prefer over the aspirationally heroic character of Clark Savage Jr. (the “code” as linked by **Earl** would send audiences into :rolleyes: so much they would be unable to keep watching). But we know old-school pulp hero-_style_ characters can be welcomed if done well – see: Jones, Indiana. An original-vintage pulp-era hero, _ **done well** _, need not fail where a hommage succeeded (just keep those eyes from rolling so hard people pass out). The “done well” part is the tricky part. And you just know it, that even if they do bring the Man of Bronze to the screen to good WOM and hefty box-office receipts, we will still have a number of the old-school fans tearing their hair out and loudly wailing on every available blog and board of how “They” betrayed and deformed the true spirit of Doc Savage. (that IS something to think about - would a doc Savage for 2014, even if the story itself is set in the 1930s\*, be done “ironically”, maybe “reinterpreted” for 2014 attitudes? Or why not?) (\* **Voyager** : What I hear is that the adventure in question will be set in-period, rather than contemporarily.) ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741/20 "2013-05-09T00:43:14Z")
I don’t care as long as it is set in the 1930’s. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-man-of-iron-to-man-of-bronze/657741.md?page=2)