# From the "you can't make this stuff up" department . . .

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 20, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362 "2006-02-20T20:03:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/21 "2006-02-21T22:02:40Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> I wouldn’t have sex with a goat even for membership in the Illuminati, CFR, Trilateral Commission and Skull and Bones even if it was one goat for all four!  
> hh

This one’s beggin for an “all-Fours” joke. Anyone care to take it on?

Would you could you with a goat?

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/22 "2006-02-21T22:10:28Z")

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> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> This one’s beggin for an “all-Fours” joke. Anyone care to take it on?
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> Would you could you with a goat?

I will not, will not with a goat. I’ll pass on the “all-Fours” joke, too.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/23 "2006-02-21T22:20:45Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> A friend of mine went through a ritual similar to that when he was rushing for the Phi Delta Theta chapter at Husker U. Not only were they deprived of sleep for a week, they couldn’t shower or change clothes and were forced to endure a spicy bean mixture (called “Mom’s Rules”) poured down the front of their pants.
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> At the end of the week, they were led, blindfolded, downstairs outside the common room where they heard a goat bleating. They were told they were going to have sex with the goat and were led, one-by-one, into the common room where each guy was instructed to take off his blindfold.
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> There was a goat. But there were also strippers. (The goat sex would’ve been funnier.)

Now see, I can’t understand why anyone would let themselves be subjected to crap like this. I can’t see the appeal of fraternities whatsoever. Why does anyone think this kind of abuse is fun or desirable? What’s the payoff? You get to wear a stupid hat and live with a bunch of drunken morons? I’ll never understand it.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/24 "2006-02-21T22:31:35Z")

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Damn. Now that the military has their [“If Frat Boys Do It, It’s Not So Bad” policy](http://mediamatters.org/items/200405050003) in place I can just imagine what’s in store for those prisoners in Gitmo.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/25 "2006-02-21T22:35:14Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> I wouldn’t have sex with a goat even for membership in the Illuminati, CFR, Trilateral Commission and Skull and Bones even if it was one goat for all four!  
> hh

But the SDMB…that’s another story 😃

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/26 "2006-02-21T22:36:20Z")

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I guess this type of incident helps explain the lifelong friendships formed in the fraternity system. If you’re part of a group of guys that rapes a goat - that’s not a bond you’re going to forget.

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**Author:** ![LiveOnAPlane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@LiveOnAPlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LiveOnAPlane)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/27 "2006-02-21T23:49:46Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Now see, I can’t understand why anyone would let themselves be subjected to crap like this. I can’t see the appeal of fraternities whatsoever. Why does anyone think this kind of abuse is fun or desirable? What’s the payoff? You get to wear a stupid hat and live with a bunch of drunken morons? I’ll never understand it.

OK, in all seriousness, I am with you. I think that anyone who subjects his or her person to abuse would do well to re-think things.

I’m not dissing fraternities or soroties, but I just don’t get it either.

I will say that not ALL of them require idiotic initiations, and are more like a “home away from home.” With emotional and study support. Unfortunately, I have never experienced these, it is purely second and third hand info.

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**Author:** ![LiveOnAPlane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@LiveOnAPlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LiveOnAPlane)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/28 "2006-02-21T23:51:31Z")

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Uh, sororoties ( I think) :smack:

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2006, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/29 "2006-02-21T23:59:56Z")

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More disturbing than what they tell is the lack of goat sized condoms in the house. Did they expect the goat to go unprotected during all of this? Talk about animal cruelty.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/30 "2006-02-22T05:45:15Z")

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> [@LiveOnAPlane](#):
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> Uh, sororoties ( I think) :smack:

Close. It’s ‘sororities’, from the Latin for “sister”.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/from-the-you-cant-make-this-stuff-up-department/345362/31 "2006-02-22T06:21:47Z")

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“That would be Up The Butt, Baaaaaaab.”

Gaaaaaat nuthin’

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