# Frontrunners for Democratic presidential nomination in 2028 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 16, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036 "2025-01-16T06:50:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2633 "2026-09-23T18:38:50Z")
My point is that we are all being held hostage by idiots since the beginning of time, idiots in power, idiots in the street (specially now with cars), idiots with guns, idiots that vote (or refrain from voting), etc. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2634 "2026-09-23T18:44:19Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > “Evidence suggests that group is probably significantly more likely to have voted for tRump” - that hasn’t been my experience. High turnout has been favoring Democrats for the last few decades, as far as I can recall. Of course, turnout hasn’t been high a lot…so it may be a cause of post hoc ergo propter hoc. Yes, high turnout has favored Democrats in the past, but that has completely reversed during the Trump era. The people who vote most reliably are highly educated people, who used to lean Republican but have almost universally been driven into the arms of the Democrats by Trump’s aggressive anti-intellectualism. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2635 "2026-09-23T19:05:16Z")
Mitch Landrieu enters the conversation. > **[He Ran New Orleans After Katrina. Will He Run for President?](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2026/09/23/mitch-landrieu-2028-new-orleans-mayor-01088813)** > > Former New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu says the country is in trouble and is wondering whether he can help fix it. He was one that I had hoped would’ve jumped into the 2020 race. He would’ve brought elder white southern moderate guy with executive experience energy to the ticket at a time when we needed that. I think his time may have passed and we have better options and possibly different wants from the electorate. The possibility of missing his window was brought up in the linked interview. > **Do you ever wonder if maybe you should have run in ’19 or ’20? Like, was that maybe your better opening? Because Obama took his chance in ’08. Chris Christie famously didn’t take his chance in ’12.** > > Neither did Mario Cuomo. > > **And Mario Cuomo never took his shot. He got on the plane. And never got to New Hampshire.** > > **So timing is everything in this business. Was ’20 your best shot?** > > I don’t know. > > **Would you have been Pete in ’20? I guess that’s the question, right?** > > Most certainly. At least. I don’t take anything away from Pete. I think Pete’s a superstar. > > **But you would’ve broken out, been competitive in Iowa and New Hampshire.** > > I think arguably. I could have had it. … > > **He actually won Iowa**. > > He did win Iowa. He did great. I mean, he did an unbelievable thing. > > **But that could have been you!** > > I could’ve been a contender! > > **We’re gonna be at Mosca’s in like 2039, and you’re gonna be like, “I should have run in ’20, damn it.”** > > You know, the truth is, when you look back over your life — I’ve had 10 elections. I’ve won eight of them in the first primary. But you think about the shots that you didn’t take. Of course. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2636 "2026-09-24T00:36:40Z")
Has he done anything else? Straight from mayor to President is a pretty big jump. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2637 "2026-09-24T00:49:58Z")
As the linked article says, he served in the Biden administration and was also the Lt Governor of Louisiana. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2026, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2638 "2026-09-24T21:27:39Z")
Andy’s back in the news. > **[Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear pushes to flip a Republican-friendly House seat in...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/24/politics/andy-beshear-helping-zach-dembo-flip-republican-seat)** > > As the midterms near, potential 2028 presidential candidates are looking to prove their appeal in a range of House districts across the country. For Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear, it’s all about his state’s 6th Congressional District. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2639 "2026-10-01T23:46:26Z")
Newsom vetoes bill banning people from secretly recording strangers, because he craves Facebook cash. > **[California governor vetoes bill banning use of 'pervert glasses' to secretly...](https://techcrunch.com/2026/10/01/california-governor-vetoes-bill-banning-use-of-pervert-glasses-to-secretly-record-people/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=bluesky)** > > The California state bill would have penalized people who secretly recorded people in public with wearables equipped with cameras and microphones. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2026, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2640 "2026-10-01T23:56:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Newsom vetoes bill banning people from secretly recording strangers, because he craves Facebook cash. Not even close- > Newsom said in a [letter to lawmakers](https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/VETO-msg-SB-1130.pdf) on Wednesday that he declined to sign the draft law, [California Senate Bill 1130](https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260SB1130), on grounds that it defines wearable recording devices as “too broadly or imprecisely” and that this could lead to confusion and unintended consequences. Newsom added that the proposed bill also includes protections that already exist in California’s law. Nothingburger. And you can do the exact same thing with a cell phone. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2641 "2026-10-02T00:05:41Z")
Right. Nothing Newsom does means what it means. He’s totally not throwing his constituents under the bus yet again to curry favor with Mark Zuckerberg. Move along folks, nothing to see here. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2642 "2026-10-02T00:13:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He’s totally not throwing his constituents under the bus By vetoing a foolish law? That will not have any real effect, except get tossed out by the courts? The law only bans one class of items to stop people-being recorded in public places without their explicit consent. But individuals have no reasonable expectation of privacy when they are in plain view outside. First Amendment protections allow members of the public and journalists to take photographs and record video in any public space where they are lawfully present, such as sidewalks, parks, and public streets. (there are exceptions). Otherwise every news photographer or news camera operator and paparazzi would be in jail. And people using their cell phones to record a celebration, such as a marriage proposal _would have to get written consent from everyone in the background._ So the bill would be tossed by the courts. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2643 "2026-10-02T00:21:17Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But individuals have no reasonable expectation of privacy when they are in plain view outside. First Amendment protections allow members of the public and journalists to take photographs and record video in any public space where they are lawfully present, such as sidewalks, parks, and public streets. (there are exceptions). Otherwise every news photographer or news camera operator and paparazzi would be in jail So is upskirting legal then? You seem to have a committed belief that the CA legislature spends all its time passing pointless and harmful legislation that their governor of the same party has no choice but to selflessly veto in the name of the public good. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2644 "2026-10-02T00:30:05Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > So is upskirting legal then? That is one of the exceptions, since women do have a reasonable expectation of privacy for that. In most cases. > [@Smapti](#): > > You seem to have a committed belief that the CA legislature spends all its time passing pointless and harmful legislation that their governor of the same party has no choice but to selflessly veto in the name of the public good. They pass something like 1000 bills a year. And yeah, often they want the voters to see their “Yea” vote on a bill, even if it is gonna be tossed by the courts or is useless. So then, if Newsom does _not_ veto a stupid law- that is his fault also? The legislature has no blame? Nor the lobbyists? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2645 "2026-10-02T00:59:59Z")
Would you care to explain why it’s a good thing he signed a law making it harder for child sexual assault survivors to sue the governmental institutions that were complicit in covering up crimes? > **[Client Challenge](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/newsom-signs-bill-rein-sexual-015735278.html)** ---
**Author:** ![JDYanYan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jdyanyan/32/21663_2.png) [@JDYanYan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDYanYan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2646 "2026-10-02T01:19:13Z")
One of the biggest red flags with Newsom is how much he torched his credibility with regular dems to impress some chuds and maybe cozy up to the donors. It’s the same angle Seth Moulton took, with a predictable outcome. I don’t trust him to run a presidential admin, or be a standard bearer for the party. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2647 "2026-10-02T01:26:03Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > That is one of the exceptions, since women do have a reasonable expectation of privacy for that. And thanks to the pervert glasses you can now upskirt someone just by looking at them. I’d rather _not_ live in that one episode of Black Mirror. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2648 "2026-10-02T02:00:47Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And thanks to the pervert glasses you can now upskirt someone just by looking at them. Only if you’re looking at them from a very unusual angle. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2649 "2026-10-02T05:08:43Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Would you care to explain why it’s a good thing he signed a law making it harder for child sexual assault survivors to sue the governmental institutions that were complicit in covering up crimes? > The law imposes $25,000 punishments for lawyers who pursue a case on behalf of a client they believed was lying about their allegations or otherwise didn’t have a reasonable basis for suing. SB577 also directs the California attorney general to investigate allegations of child sexual abuse and allegations of fraudulent cases in Los Angeles County, specifically. A Los Angeles Times investigation last year revealed that some plaintiffs [said they were paid to sue, in some cases over fabricated claims](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-10-02/settlement-story-ab218-sex-abuse) of sexual assault.\ Yeah, he made things tough for crooked lawyers. > [@Chronos](#): > > Only if you’re looking at them from a very unusual angle. Yep. I love when they make up names for things “pervert glasses”. One company sold 7 million last year alone- damn, that’s a lot of perverts. 🙀 You can do the exact same thing with a cell phone- maybe we can call them “pervert phones” now? 🙄 And again- _the law is NOT Constitutional._ ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2650 "2026-10-02T05:15:13Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I love when they make up names for things “pervert glasses”. One company sold 7 million last year alone- damn, that’s a lot of perverts. > **[The Entire History of You](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Entire_History_of_You)** > > "The Entire History of You" is the third and final episode of the first series of the British dystopian fiction anthology television series Black Mirror. It is the only episode not written or co-written by series creator Charlie Brooker, instead credited to sitcom writer Jesse Armstrong. Directed by Brian Welsh, the episode premiered on Channel 4 on 18 December 2011. The episode is set in a future where a "grain" technology records people's audiovisual senses, allowing a person to re-watch thei... ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2651 "2026-10-02T05:16:54Z")
I am not even sure what your point is here, and i think we have done this to death. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/2652 "2026-10-02T05:18:35Z")
The point is that I’d prefer not to live in a world where I’m being constantly recorded by total strangers who can play back their own visual input on demand and that Gavin Newsom feels that letting a world like that exist is worth it to get tech billionaires to donate to him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036.md?page=133)