# Frontrunners for Democratic presidential nomination in 2028 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 16, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036 "2025-01-16T06:50:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/321 "2025-03-18T16:04:29Z")
I don’t know how you Dems are going to do it in 2028. 2024 proved that majority of voters fall into one of three categories. 1. MAGAs that want to watch the world burn 2. Pubs that would rather watch the world burn than vote for an exceptional **Dem** candidate 3. Dems that can’t be bothered to vote to prevent the world from burning Who could you nominate that could possibly overcome that? ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/322 "2025-03-18T16:06:28Z")
Do you not know what “paraphrase” means? It means communicating the same message as the original quote, but using different words to express it. By definition, it isn’t a word for word quote. Smapti’s paraphrase uses ruder language to make clear what an awful thing to say it was, but it doesn’t in any way change the meaning. And Smapti didn’t say “Rahm said “XYZ””, he said "Rahm did the whole “XYZ” routine. I don’t think in that context a reasonable reader would think Smapti is claiming that the part in quotes is a direct word-for-word quote. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/323 "2025-03-18T17:21:43Z")
> [@natureboy](#): > > There is no one in the Democratic party who is positioned to be the kind of winner and transformational figure that voters seem to want, which is why the party polls so poorly. Same thing with Obama this many years before the election. > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I doubt there is a heterosexual male who would disagree with that thinking in 7th grade. Yeah, you make a point- few boys of that age have any wisdom. Silly damn thing to say, anyway. > [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Do you not know what “paraphrase” means? It means communicating the same message as the original quote, but using different words to express it Not the same message however. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/324 "2025-03-18T20:15:23Z")
Your point about Schumer’s possibly being primaried after the CR was nice. I like that consideration for sure. ---
**Author:** ![natureboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@natureboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/natureboy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/325 "2025-03-19T00:18:15Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Same thing with Obama this many years before the election. I think the situation is _possibly_ more dire for Dems this time around. In 2008 the two parties were not all that dissimilar and centrists controlled the party leadership and reliably brought factions into their respective tents. Times have changed. Republicans have successfully transformed their party into a new brand, whereas I think the Dems have a real identity crisis on their hands. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/326 "2025-03-20T21:49:31Z")
> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#): > > When Newsom had Charlie Kirk on his podcast and said that the participation of transgender women in women’s sports is “deeply unfair,” I took it as a signal that he’s running for president. Yeah, he lost me forever with that combo. What a dumbfuck. > [@](#): > > I don’t know that this move by Newsom will help him nationally. It alienates a constituency, and it’s an obvious attempt to make people forget his history —so obvious that it’s not likely to convince many people. It reminded Dems everywhere that he’s a sleaze with Gordon Gekko hair. Maybe he can interview Gargoylefoyle and turn their reunion into a reality TV show. I hear she’s no longer with Jr. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/327 "2025-03-20T21:53:51Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > If Newsom thought he was running for president, he ain’t anymore. LMFAO. _Precisely._ Meanwhile, the dumbass thinks he helped his cause. > [@](#): > > Yet another reason the Democrats need to take Rahm Emanuel, James Carville, and everyone who’s ever worked for Hillary Clinton, and put them on an ice floe and nudge it out to sea. Maybe they can help Trump take over Greenland, lol! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/328 "2025-03-20T22:14:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > But they had PENISES! So did Margaret Thatcher, but that didn’t stop her from becoming PM in 1979. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/329 "2025-03-20T22:42:07Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Too late to edit: I was at least somewhat incorrect in this; I had forgotten that, as a Senatorial candidate in the summer of 2004, he delivered a keynote speech at the DNC; it was probably the first time that many people outside of Illinois had ever heard of him, or seen him speak. It was a big deal. I remember being in a bar after it, talking to a Black person, and saying, “First Black president!” based on that speech. My point isn’t to give myself any credit for prescience. The speech made a big impact, and Obama was instantly a rising star. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/330 "2025-03-20T22:47:52Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > It was a big deal. I remember being in a bar after it, talking to a Black person, and saying, “First Black president!” based on that speech. I wasn’t in a bar-- I was home by myself, but I had exactly the same reaction! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/331 "2025-03-20T22:50:14Z")
I didn’t see the speech in a bar. I don’t remember exactly the context in which I became aware of it, but aware of it I became. The point of the “bar scene” is that a _lot_ of people were already aware of Obama and the impact he’d had, you know? His charisma was instantly famous. So yes! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/332 "2025-03-20T22:53:20Z")
> [@natureboy](#): > > Republicans have successfully transformed their party into a new brand, Yes, if “nazi fuckheads” is a winning brand. I gotta repeat what I think is obvious: none of this works without Trump alive and kicking. None of the fascist mojo transfers to _anyone._ Vance? LMFAO!!! > [@](#): > > whereas I think the Dems have a real identity crisis on their hands. True, but a new identity is being established. Look at the Tesla Takedown. _That’s_ us kicking ass. We’re not going to stop. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/333 "2025-03-20T22:55:15Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Who could you nominate that could possibly overcome that? Anyone. Trump won’t be on the ballot. That means everything will be different. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/334 "2025-03-20T22:57:51Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Rahm’s chances of getting the D nomination are slim to none in my opinion for a variety of reasons not least of which is his abrasive personality. No one in the world thinks he was a good mayor of Chicago because he wasn’t. That’s enough for him never to get the nomination, but, as you say, he has no charisma and no appeal. To bring him up as a potential candidate is absurd. Case closed. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/335 "2025-03-20T23:36:56Z")
I think Trump, as long as he’s still alive, will be the most powerful man in American politics. If he throws his full support behind a successor, that person will instantly become the overwhelming favorite to win. And then there’s Musk who is the second most powerful. He has the same cult-like following that Trump does and he wields tremendous power. I think you live in a fairy tale if you think this is over in four years. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/336 "2025-03-20T23:39:30Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > I think Trump, as long as he’s still alive, will be the most powerful man in American politics. If he throws his full support behind a successor, that person will instantly become the overwhelming favorite to win. I don’t think Trump gives a shit about what happens after he’s done being president. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/337 "2025-03-20T23:41:48Z")
I think he does and ignoring that is wishful thinking. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/338 "2025-03-20T23:44:26Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > And then there’s Musk who is the second **lost** powerful. My bold. Freudian typo? Yeah, he’s lost all right. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/339 "2025-03-20T23:51:04Z")
> [@natureboy](#): > > There is no one in the Democratic party who is positioned to be the kind of winner and transformational figure that voters seem to want, which is why the party polls so poorly. I don’t agree. The party polls poorly IMO because it is just a regular political party trying to do regular political and governance-type things, while the GOP has become a fascist insurgency offering dum-dum-style ACTION! for the rubes. It’s asymmetrical warfare. ---
**Author:** ![natureboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@natureboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/natureboy)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/340 "2025-03-21T00:03:44Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I don’t agree. The party polls poorly IMO because it is just a regular political party trying to do regular political and governance-type things, while the GOP has become a fascist insurgency offering dum-dum-style ACTION! for the rubes. It’s asymmetrical warfare. They’re losing because they have a gerontocracy problem. I also think that much of the party was pretty clueless and blind the last four years, not really doing a good job of listening to the bottom half of income/wealth spectrum, pointing to the increased value of assets (stock market indices & real estate markets) as though that’s a great thing while shrugging off inflation as transitory. They thought the border wasn’t really a problem when in fact it was a huge one in the minds of working class voters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036.md?page=18)