# Frontrunners for Democratic presidential nomination in 2028 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 16, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036 "2025-01-16T06:50:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/821 "2025-08-16T15:22:49Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > > [@DrDeth](#): > > > > Not in the case. trump was blaming inflation on Biden- showing inflation was worldwide would act to disprove that. > > Yeah, but we know the counter to that would have been based on American Exceptionalism. As in “who cares if the whole world’s suffering this, we’re America we’re entitled by God Himself to be exempted so Biden’s failing.” Not to rehash a previous campaign, one of the many horrible mistakes was not trying to show the voters what was really going on with inflation. They were getting hit in the face everyday by the opposition and putting up no defense. Sure if you delved deep into the Harris website I’m sure you could find something about it. Anyone taking that kind of deep dive was probably already on her side. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/822 "2025-08-16T16:24:37Z")
Now I’m afraid someone might refrain from mocking him lest they be thought to be mocking the disabled. Actually, it’s more than likely it’s Steven Chung, his malformed shadow, who writes postings in his style. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/823 "2025-08-16T18:20:35Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Not to rehash a previous campaign, one of the many horrible mistakes was not trying to show the voters what was really going on with inflation. They did. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/824 "2025-08-16T18:58:28Z")
Sure they did. Very effective. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/825 "2025-08-17T02:56:05Z")
They tried, _and_ it was ineffective. > [@filmore](#): > > I’m enjoying this version of Newsom: > > [https://x.com/GovPressOffice/status/1955411757540970603](https://x.com/GovPressOffice/status/1955411757540970603) > > Full text: > > > [@](#): > > > > DONALD “TACO” TRUMP, AS MANY CALL HIM, “MISSED” THE DEADLINE!!! CALIFORNIA WILL NOW DRAW NEW, MORE “BEAUTIFUL MAPS,” THEY WILL BE HISTORIC AS THEY WILL END THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY (DEMS TAKE BACK THE HOUSE!). BIG PRESS CONFERENCE THIS WEEK WITH POWERFUL DEMS AND GAVIN NEWSOM — YOUR FAVORITE GOVERNOR — THAT WILL BE DEVASTATING FOR “MAGA.” THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! — GN I’m not really a Newsom fan, but I know world-class trolling when I see it. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/826 "2025-08-18T17:18:57Z")
> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > (FWIW, I think there’s a good chance that Trump has an actual, legit learning disability affecting his reading and writing abilities, making this the sort of “punching down” that most of us would be uncomfortable with if the target were almost anyone else No. Just…no. Why would you bother to carry even a drop of water for this madman? There is no lens through which mocking Donald Trump is anything other than punching up. Way up. He _literally_ has all the power and is trying to accumulate more every day. MOCK THE FUCK AWAY with no compunction, I say. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/827 "2025-08-18T17:47:47Z")
Exactly. It’s nice to see the Democrats upping their trolling and shit-talking game for a change, and realizing that taking the high road and adhering to the traditional playbook won’t work against the Orange One. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/828 "2025-08-18T21:45:24Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > No. Just…no. Why would you bother to carry even a drop of water for this madman? There is no lens through which mocking Donald Trump is anything other than punching up. Way up. He _literally_ has all the power and is trying to accumulate more every day. MOCK THE FUCK AWAY with no compunction, I say. Because – for reasons I don’t really understand – his supporters, a lot of whom are actually, legitimately, marginalized by poverty or poor education, _identify_ with him and his persecution complex. Mocking Trump, from their point of view, feels like mocking _them_, and it makes them dig in ever deeper, so I don’t think it’s a winning strategy if you’re interested in doing more than preaching to the choir ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/829 "2025-08-19T15:16:08Z")
> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > Because – for reasons I don’t really understand – his supporters, a lot of whom are actually, legitimately, marginalized by poverty or poor education, _identify_ with him and his persecution complex. Mocking Trump, from their point of view, feels like mocking _them_, and it makes them dig in ever deeper, so I don’t think it’s a winning strategy if you’re interested in doing more than preaching to the choir Trump wasn’t some downtrodden kid who went to a poorly funded public school. He went to an elite private military academy, and followed that up with four years at an Ivy League school. And his supporters certainly don’t see him as dumb or pitiful. Honestly this is the same attitude that caused the Harris campaign to stop using “weird” as an attack line against Trump and Vance, even as it was gaining some real traction. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/830 "2025-08-19T15:17:35Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > followed that up with four years at an Ivy League school Two years. He started at Fordham, and transferred to Penn as a junior. But, the general point still stands. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/831 "2025-08-19T16:43:15Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > attitude that caused the Harris campaign to stop using “weird” as an attack line against Trump and Vance, even as it was gaining some real traction After 8 years, D campaign strategists were (and are) still scarred by “deplorables”. It is true that the MAGA base somehow _ **both** _ sees Trump as strong and great _ **and** _ feels any attacks on him are reallly signaling hate against them all. Their media and influencers hammer that home constantly. But the D’s keeps letting _them_ be the ones who define the terms. Come on D’s, “He never hurt or upset anyone” is a lame inscription to put on your gravestone. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/832 "2025-08-19T17:02:23Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > I mean, Trump is very protectionist and that’s pretty popular with unions. Is this the same Trump trying to get rid of mediation services for public-sector unions? ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/833 "2025-08-19T18:06:55Z")
The same MAGA that absolutely HATES teacher unions. Loathes them with a blinding passion. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/834 "2025-08-19T18:19:49Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > After 8 years, D campaign strategists were (and are) still scarred by “deplorables”. This is not true, and Hillary’s quote- if read in context- was absolutely true. Read it sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/835 "2025-08-19T20:16:37Z")
I _know_ the quote. But _Democratic “strategists”_ are still scarred by how Team Trump twisted it into “she’s calling ALL OF YOU deplorable” and weaponized and threw it back at her. So to this day they keep holding their fire. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/836 "2025-08-19T23:15:17Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > But _Democratic “strategists”_ are still scarred by how Team Trump twisted it into “she’s calling ALL OF YOU deplorable” and weaponized and threw it back at her. So to this day they keep holding their fire. I doubt this. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/837 "2025-08-20T00:02:55Z")
Hillary Clinton said that half of Trump’s supporters were a “basket of deplorables.” That may have been true, it may still be true, but it was a stupid thing to say politically. You don’t win elections by criticizing voters. Criticizing the opposing candidate is fine, criticizing the opposing party is fine. But criticizing half of Trump’s potential voters leaves all of them feeling attacked, this despite the fact that Clinton also said the other half supported Trump because they felt left behind and ignored. As for calling the Republicans “weird,” I always thought this was a stupid strategy. It sounded childish and pathetic, like an ineffectual attempt at a Trump-style insult. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/838 "2025-08-20T00:11:41Z")
The “weird” stuff was great, because they are weird. Their obsession with children’s bathrooms is weird. There’s a ton of other little weird things like that. Vance is weird as FUCK. It was working and then they stopped because the campaign people got scared and thought they needed to be more moderate and have more Republicans on the campaign trail. Attack where they’re weak, and their weirdness is weak. The next time around, say Trump and the GOP chose CANCER in the war on cancer. Make the attacks simple. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/839 "2025-08-20T02:18:42Z")
The people insulted with basket of deplorables hate government. They will not ever vote for a democrat. A few odd democrats would be tolerable to them. In that case, they do not bother to vote at all. They vote…agains the federal goverment. Vaccines. Masks. Parking tickets. Traffic circles. Whatever locally interests them. They hate mayors too. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036/840 "2025-08-20T02:26:32Z")
> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#): > > Hillary Clinton said that half of Trump’s supporters were a “basket of deplorables.” Here is the actual quote- _"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? [Laughter/applause]. The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people, now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric. Now some of those folks, they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America.”_ and i concur with every word. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The “weird” stuff was great, because they are weird. Their obsession with children’s bathrooms is weird. There’s a ton of other little weird things like that. Vance is weird as FUCK. No. Vance is _creepy,_ not weird. Weird is good. Many of us here are weird. > [@TeroSunbear](#): > > The people insulted with basket of deplorables hate government. They will not ever vote for a democrat. A few odd democrats would be tolerable to them. In that case, they do not bother to vote at all. They vote…agains the federal goverment. Vaccines. Masks. Parking tickets. Traffic circles. Whatever locally interests them. They hate mayors too. Very good. **However, this may be getting off the point of this thread.** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frontrunners-for-democratic-presidential-nomination-in-2028/1013036.md?page=43)