# FTR: No matter how harsh I get here with the nasty wordsies, I am not "persecuting" you

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 7, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591 "2014-04-07T23:17:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/121 "2014-04-10T21:33:55Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I just don’t get why you people indulged him as long as you did (and continue to indulge him as long as you have), giving Bricker a nice hearty meal of your impotent outrage, collected with such minimal effort on his part.
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> Frankly, I blame _you_.

Why are you persecuting them?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/122 "2014-04-11T18:55:36Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I really didn’t want to continue this hijack but I feel I must. I need to apologize to BPC. He is correct. I found the older thread and reread it and she was 16, so not underage. He just thought she was 15 while they were boinking.

Good for you. You made an error and apologized. That speaks well of you. There’s not enough of that on these boards.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/123 "2014-04-11T21:07:57Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Good for you. You made an error and apologized. That speaks well of you. There’s not enough of that on these boards.

Sometime it’s appropriate, sometimes it just encourages the troglodytes.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/124 "2014-04-11T21:14:30Z")

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Hmm, a bit of a guilty conscience showing …

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/125 "2014-04-11T21:38:08Z")

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Bricker, in this and the other threads on this subject, is simply doing what _Diogenes the Cynic_ got flack for.

He loves the baby Jesus, and will disingenuously bat his eyelashes to protect His honor heedless of facts, reality, and common sense.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/126 "2014-04-11T22:08:15Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Bricker, in this and the other threads on this subject, is simply doing what _Diogenes the Cynic_ got flack for.
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> He loves the baby Jesus, and will disingenuously bat his eyelashes to protect His honor heedless of facts, reality, and common sense.

Did Diogenes the Cynic kick your butt, conversationally-speaking, also?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/127 "2014-04-11T22:49:41Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Did Diogenes the Cynic kick your butt, conversationally-speaking, also?

No. But neither has Bricker, at least recently. He typically ignores my points.

You may return to nuzzling the corn from his taint.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/128 "2014-04-12T03:50:41Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Hmm, a bit of a guilty conscience showing …

Why am I unsurprised that you fail to name names?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/129 "2014-04-12T09:12:03Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I really didn’t want to continue this hijack but I feel I must. I need to apologize to BPC. He is correct. I found the older thread and reread it and she was 16, so not underage. He just thought she was 15 while they were boinking.
> 
> “and she isn’t 15 like she told you.”
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15402043&postcount=44](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15402043&postcount=44)  
> And I’m done with this hijack. Have a good day and kiss a puppy. Puppies need love to. 🙂

Still not quite accurate; I thought she was 16 when we had sex, and then her mother said some things I found extremely confusing. When I wrote that thread, I was confused and didn’t quite know what was going on. I thought her mother had implied that she was 14 or 15 (if I had thought she was under 16, or mentally handicapped, I wouldn’t have done it!); it turns out she wasn’t. But thank you for the apology anyways. It would be hella nice if this whole “BPC raped an underaged retard” thing died.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/130 "2014-04-12T13:46:19Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Still not quite accurate; I thought she was 16 when we had sex, and then her mother said some things I found extremely confusing. When I wrote that thread, I was confused and didn’t quite know what was going on. I thought her mother had implied that she was 14 or 15 (if I had thought she was under 16, or mentally handicapped, I wouldn’t have done it!); it turns out she wasn’t. But thank you for the apology anyways. It would be hella nice if this whole “BPC raped an underaged retard” thing died.

No dog but, it doesn’t help that your story seems to change a lot. Plus if the situation was that fucked up you should have just walked away or waited. Screaming, _“she was 16 not 15!!!”_ just doesn’t make it that much better from a moral standpoint, imo.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/131 "2014-04-12T14:55:27Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Hmm, a bit of a guilty conscience showing …

I doubt it. That would require a working moral compass.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/132 "2014-04-12T14:57:42Z")

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> [@White SIFL](#):
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> No dog but, it doesn’t help that your story seems to change a lot. Plus if the situation was that fucked up you should have just walked away or waited. Screaming, _“she was 16 not 15!!!”_ just doesn’t make it that much better from a moral standpoint, imo.

Wait—I’m not aware of the thread that this was discussed in, nor all of the details. But are you really objecting to a two-year differences in high-school dating?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/133 "2014-04-12T15:18:43Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> No. But neither has Bricker, at least recently. He typically ignores my points.
> 
> You may return to nuzzling the corn from his taint.

Are you hitting on me? 😕

Thanks but no thanks.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/134 "2014-04-12T16:44:09Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I doubt it. That would require a working moral compass.

Your passive aggression pleases me.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/135 "2014-04-13T02:42:20Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Wait—I’m not aware of the thread that this was discussed in, nor all of the details…

[old roll eyes]

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/136 "2014-04-13T06:58:33Z")

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> [@White SIFL](#):
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> [old roll eyes]

?

[medieval roll eyes]

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/137 "2014-04-13T09:32:09Z")

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> [@White SIFL](#):
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> No dog but, it doesn’t help that your story seems to change a lot. Plus if the situation was that fucked up you should have just walked away or waited. Screaming, _“she was 16 not 15!!!”_ just doesn’t make it that much better from a moral standpoint, imo.

In many circles, the difference between 2 years and 3 years in high school is considered meaningful. In many states, the difference between 15 and 16 is that one is legal and one is not for those who are 18.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/138 "2014-04-13T22:41:07Z")

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I am somehow reminded of one of my Christian neighbors who imagines she is severely put upon because her kids nearly always have off Rosh Ha’Shanah and Yom Kippur but not always Holy Thursday. I was pleased to be free of her complaining last year when the high holy days fell on weekends.

The older I get the more I think I just want a secular society where religious customs are treated as just religious customs and nothing more. FYI, my daughter has a half day for both days of Passover this week but no school on Holy Thursday. This is due to the need to make up for multiple unexpected snow days. The school superintendent had no trouble forcing Jews in our neighborhood to accept less than full days off rather than extend the school year. I imagine said neighbor will still find some way to whine. Because in her world it is fair that she gets off Christmas without bothering to ask for it and even more fair that most Jews have to take off Yom Kippur as part of their vacation time. Because her religion deserves a place in the public square that should obviously never be accorded to other beliefs.

I have unfortunately encountered similar sentiments from a fair number of Christians over the years. At one point five of six people in our division were Jews who took off Yom Kippur. Our Christian co-worker spend much of the time upon our return complaining about it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/139 "2014-04-14T00:28:14Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> I have unfortunately encountered similar sentiments from a fair number of Christians over the years. At one point five of six people in our division were Jews who took off Yom Kippur. Our Christian co-worker spend much of the time upon our return complaining about it.

Did it sound something like this: So, I’ll just do EVERYone’s work! What does it matter if I drop dead at my desk?

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**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ftr-no-matter-how-harsh-i-get-here-with-the-nasty-wordsies-i-am-not-persecuting-you/685591/140 "2014-04-14T03:02:57Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> ?
> 
> [medieval roll eyes]

Brief sidetrack: surely it cannot have escaped your notice that the new rolleyes smilie, looking as it does like someone trying to escape the blame for a fart, lacks a great deal of the disdainful impact of the old green one, with its “Lord give me strength to suffer this fool” flavor.

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