# Fuck Adrian Peterson

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 13, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357 "2014-09-13T01:20:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/1 "2014-09-13T01:20:24Z")

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So, in the latest NFL kerflfuffle, Minnesota Vikings running back has been indicted for hitting his kid with a switch on his bare bottom, which also wrapped around his legs, leaving welts on his thighs and scrotum. Plus, the kid has defensive marks on his hands. The kid is 5 or 6 years old. ☹

[http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/](http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/)

What an asshole. He’s totally unrepentant, because he remembers how much good getting “whooped” did him as a kid, and claims he loves his kids very much.

This is going to be interesting to see how this plays out in the NFL, with the Ray Rice thing so fresh in everyone’s mind. I find beating your children more abhorrent than beating your wife, but not everyone does. Goddell is damned if he does (“I can’t believe AP got suspended at all! Most kids these days need a good beatin’”) and damned if he doesn’t (“Of course he should be suspended - he should be in jail!”)

Ultimately, Peterson is a nasty, awful person, I don’t care what his parents taught him. Fuck him right in the butt.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/2 "2014-09-13T01:35:29Z")

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Goddammit, AP.

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**Author:** ![Sodalite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@Sodalite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sodalite)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/3 "2014-09-13T02:19:54Z")

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[This article](http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/adrian-peterson-indicted-reckless-negligent-injury-to-a-child-091214) has a photo of some of the injuries. I got plenty of whippings when I was a kid. My Mom favored the switch, Dad always used a belt, and the school used a wooden paddle. As far as I know, I didn’t look like that after any of them. There were a few where Mom went a bit overboard because she was angry. I remember being sore for awhile and having welts sometimes, but I’m pretty sure I never bled and I know I never had any open wounds.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/4 "2014-09-13T03:26:43Z")

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Can’t be arsed to check the time stamps, but I think somebody beat you to it in the “Fuck Ray Rice” thread.

I will forgo the congratulations on your original thread title.

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**Author:** ![EndlessEntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f9ae1b/32.png) [@EndlessEntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EndlessEntropy)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/5 "2014-09-13T04:06:28Z")

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This wouldnt even be a story 15 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/6 "2014-09-13T04:19:30Z")

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> [@EndlessEntropy](#):
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> This wouldnt even be a story 15 years ago.

Yes, humanity does occasionally make progress.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/7 "2014-09-13T04:25:54Z")

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> [@EndlessEntropy](#):
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> This wouldnt even be a story 15 years ago.

Yea I agree, I was born in 83 and got plenty of switches(leafless green sticks) and belt beatings. Now granted I don’t think my parents ever drew blood, or hit me on the scrotum! But yea this was “normal”, one time my dad tied me up with electrical extension cord like hog tied, and I hopped out to the front lawn and screamed my head off. Someone called the cops, they came and left without incident.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/8 "2014-09-13T04:43:17Z")

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> [@EndlessEntropy](#):
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> This wouldnt even be a story 15 years ago.

Fifty years ago maybe, not 15.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/9 "2014-09-13T04:45:31Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> Yea I agree, I was born in 83 and got plenty of switches(leafless green sticks) and belt beatings. Now granted I don’t think my parents ever drew blood, or hit me on the scrotum! But yea this was “normal”, one time my dad tied me up with electrical extension cord like hog tied, and I hopped out to the front lawn and screamed my head off. Someone called the cops, they came and left without incident.

That is, or was, absolutely _not_ normal. WTF.

ETA: Born in '80.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/10 "2014-09-13T04:52:10Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> That is, or was, absolutely _not_ normal. WTF.
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> ETA: Born in '80.

That is why normal was in quotations 😉

The cops wanted to know one thing, was this man my father? Assured the answer was yes they said good day and left. In retrospect I guess they wanted to make sure I wasn’t a kidnap victim of a pedophile or something.

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**Author:** ![DChord568](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@DChord568](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DChord568)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/11 "2014-09-13T05:03:33Z")

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Do ya think maybe it’s time to retire the old “My parents beat the hell out of me when I was a kid, and I turned out all right” bit?

First of all, we did many things decades ago that we have since thought the better of.

And second, I would have to see the individual who makes such a statement in action over a period of time and in different situations before taking his word for it that he turned out all right.  
ETA: I’m not aiming this statement at anyone in particular. It’s just something I’m sure you’ll hear in relation to this case.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/12 "2014-09-13T05:10:12Z")

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> [@DChord568](#):
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> Do ya think maybe it’s time to retire the old “My parents beat the hell out of me when I was a kid, and I turned out all right” bit?
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> First of all, we did many things decades ago that we have since thought the better of.
> 
> And second, I would have to see the individual who makes such a statement in action over a period of time and in different situations before taking his word for it that he turned out all right.  
> ETA: I’m not aiming this statement at anyone in particular. It’s just something I’m sure you’ll hear in relation to this case.

There is a difference between stating factual things that used to happen, and endorsing them as ideal.

15 years ago hatred of homosexuality was much more blatant, thats a fact not an endorsement.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/13 "2014-09-13T05:12:29Z")

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Every time I hear someone say, “I got whipped as a kid and I turned out okay, a whipping will do them good!” I can only respond with, “Nope. You didn’t turn out okay. It’s not okay to think violence against a child is good.”

As **Marley** said:

> [@](#):
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> Yes, humanity does occasionally make progress.

Plus, what the hey, let’s make a corollary to Godwin’s Law and see what reception this gets:

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> Hey, I got molested as a child and I turned out okay.

Where’s the _real_ difference there? Both the whipping and the molestation of children are abuse, specifically they’re child abuse. It’s not okay. Neither one is okay.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/14 "2014-09-13T05:13:24Z")

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> [@DChord568](#):
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> Do ya think maybe it’s time to retire the old “My parents beat the hell out of me when I was a kid, and I turned out all right” bit?
> 
> First of all, we did many things decades ago that we have since thought the better of.
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> And second, I would have to see the individual who makes such a statement in action over a period of time and in different situations before taking his word for it that he turned out all right.  
> ETA: I’m not aiming this statement at anyone in particular. It’s just something I’m sure you’ll hear in relation to this case.

There is a vast, vast difference between spanking and beating.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/15 "2014-09-13T05:16:02Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Every time I hear someone say, “I got whipped as a kid and I turned out okay, a whipping will do them good!” I can only respond with, “Nope. You didn’t turn out okay. It’s not okay to think violence against a child is good.”
> 
> As **Marley** said:

And putting someone is jail is the same as kidnapping, right?

If not, then you agree that spanking is not the same thing as “violence.”

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/16 "2014-09-13T05:24:37Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> And putting someone is jail is the same as kidnapping, right?
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> If not, then you agree that spanking is not the same thing as “violence.”

One does not automatically follow the other.

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**Author:** ![DChord568](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@DChord568](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DChord568)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/17 "2014-09-13T05:30:43Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> There is a vast, vast difference between spanking and beating.

Of course there is. That’s why my post read “beat the hell out of me” rather than “spanked me.” Did you notice that?

Most of the people who make the statement speak of the former rather than the latter, and often as if it’s some badge of honor or something.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/18 "2014-09-13T05:31:08Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> And putting someone is jail is the same as kidnapping, right?

Your making false equivalences doesn’t disprove my assertion. Incarceration isn’t kidnapping–it’s a non-violent removal of a person deemed to be unfit for society. At least, in theory. Oh, and if you want to bring up capital punishment, try to remember that I am completely against that punishment. I’m also against bringing back other violent punishments such as forced tattooing, amputation of digits, limbs, or other body parts, and lashing.

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> If not, then you agree that spanking is not the same thing as “violence.”

Spanking is certainly violence, and a heinous form of violence at that.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/19 "2014-09-13T05:35:47Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> If not, then you agree that spanking is not the same thing as “violence.”

Of course spanking is violence (without the quotes), you fucking idiot. And what’s being talked about in the OP isn’t even spanking, but much worse.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-adrian-peterson/698357/20 "2014-09-13T05:38:28Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> And putting someone is jail is the same as kidnapping, right?
> 
> If not, then you agree that spanking is not the same thing as “violence.”

There’s a HUGE difference between a routine spanking (a few swats on the butt with your hand), and then beating a kid so bad he needs medical attention. I got spanked a few times – most for doing something dangerous. (Like if I ran out into the road, I got a swat). But never, EVER did my parents beat me with a belt or anything like that.

What Peterson did was not a spanking.

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