# Fuck Alberta
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 23, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564 "2021-02-23T16:48:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/1 "2021-02-23T16:48:15Z")
Canada’s answer to Texas (y’know - oil, beef, that shit) has always been on the radar for leaning politically too far to the right for this dude’s liking, but yesterday cemented matters for me with the lockdown protests at the Edmonton legislature on Saturday.
Hey why not throw in a little promomtional material of the Charlottesville rally at this stupid lockdown protest, and while we’re at it, (speak of the devil!) let’s fire up a tiki torch or two, shall we?
> **[Premier condemns hate groups at Saturday protest; police review Saturday...](https://edmontonjournal.com/news/gracelife-pastor-church-court-protest-video)**
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> Premier Jason Kenney on Monday evening condemned hate groups and racism connected to an anti-lockdown
Bad enough that the premier took a several days to condemn this. One wonders if he would have, had there been no pushback to begin with.
> **[OPINION | It's time to take action against growing extremism in Alberta | CBC...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/road-ahead-alberta-extremism-violence-racism-1.5901565)**
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> Alberta must act now to limit the progression of hatred and violence in our province, says Claire Porter Robbins.
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> I spoke to Taylor McNallie, an anti-racism activist who runs Inclusive Canada (formerly known as Rural Albertans Against Racism) and whose demonstrations were targeted by right wing groups last summer. She told me her group had been holding family friendly anti-racism discussion events and picnics in public parks across Alberta for years. But after a right wing “patriot” group member punched her partner in the side of the head in Red Deer during an event in late September, her group was forced to move the majority of their discussions online. Even then, she says, “You can’t even have an online event without them recording the conversations, and trying to locate the people who took part.” Women in particular, McNallie claims, bear the brunt of threats for taking part in anti-racism events.One woman who attended some events as an observer received text messages warning her to “Stay the F–k out of Red Deer,” while another female activist was forced to take leave from her job and leave the province for some months.
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> “Where these guys would organize an event and two or three people might show up years ago, now they’ve got 15 to 20 showing up,” McCoy says. An undercurrent of anti-authoritarianism lies behind these trends that some might argue has always existed in Alberta, but it is now interlaced with the lure of conspiracies like QAnon.
There were more articles like this I coulda posted. Their right wing nuttery is growing. Hoping some provinces can opine with their pushback on this - let Alberta know that this cancer is motherfuckingly unacceptable up here in Canada, _and cannot and **will not** spread_.
Probably should’ve waited until I got home from work before posting this, but my britches are so boiled, I had to put it now, so I will be curious when I get back about what takes there’ve been, here.
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### Author:  [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/2 "2021-02-23T16:50:23Z")
They’re a spearhead through the heart of Canada. Only way to deal with them is from two fronts:
from the West and from the East…
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### Author:  [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/3 "2021-02-24T02:10:37Z")
In a throwback to some years ago, I have always maintained that “my Canada has Quebec, but Alberta has got to go”
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### Author:  [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/4 "2021-02-24T02:33:54Z")
> [@Kropotkin](#):
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> In a throwback to some years ago, I have always maintained that “my Canada has Quebec, but Alberta has got to go”
Honestly, I think it’s the other way around. Yes, Alberta is Canada’s Texas, but they mostly appear to be crazy because of the extent to which they’ve single-mindedly tried to advance their archaic fossil fuel economy, denied climate change, decried environmentalism, and supported the crazy political parties that sided with them. It’s not the whole story but it’s a big part of it.
Whereas Quebec is more like, “Speak French, or else get out or die”. They’re more than willing to suspend the Constitution – they insisted on being able to do so – to assert this bigoted idiocy. The only reason they’re still part of Canada is that the federal government keeps throwing untold billions their way to keep them happy, mostly in the form of pork projects. Like the completely unneeded international airport at Mirabel outside Montreal, which ended up such an unnecessary utter failure that it eventually become cargo-only. Whereas Toronto, a much larger and much faster-growing city, especially now that it has so many businesses that have left Montreal because of the idiotic language laws, still struggles with a single international airport that is the 11th busiest in North America and the busiest in Canada, while Montreal’s YUL is down at 34th. And major federal contracts tend to get preferentially thrown to Quebec, like bones to an angry dog.
The difference is that I think Alberta will eventually be forced to see the light of day, and will be able to see it. Quebec will never be able to see anything beyond the blinkers of their language bigotries and paranoia.
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### Author:  [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/5 "2021-02-24T02:47:07Z")
I’m one of the 6 moderates living in Alberta and I rue the fact that the UCP has turned this province into a shambles; the stage was already set long before with King Ralph, Redford and her ilk. I remain faintly hopeful that Albertans will finally wake the fuck up but I’m not counting on it. The sooner Kenney and his puppets are gone the better.
I’m really sad because Alberta is beautiful, and has so much potential.
I still believe in one Canada, and that includes the fractious child that is Quebec.
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### Author:  [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/6 "2021-02-24T02:47:33Z")
> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Yes, Alberta is Canada’s Texas, but they mostly appear to be crazy because of the extent to which they’ve single-mindedly tried to advance their archaic fossil fuel economy, denied climate change, decried environmentalism, and supported the crazy political parties that sided with them.
“appear” to be crazy? why is this not actually crazy?
honestly want to know - I haven’t thought about Canada since I lived in Minnesota and that’s a long time ago. so, interesting thread.
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### Author:  [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/7 "2021-02-24T02:49:45Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Women in particular, McNallie claims, bear the brunt of threats for taking part in anti-racism events.
I can’t remember how much I can swear in this forum. well, this makes me really angry.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/8 "2021-02-24T02:55:20Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> I can’t remember how much I can swear in this forum. …
I say knock yourself out!
> [@How reprehensible do YOU want to be in the Pit?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-reprehensible-do-you-want-to-be-in-the-pit/844084):
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> As some of you are no doubt aware, we had a bit of drama related to the Pit recently, which has led to me reconsidering my approach to how I moderate the Pit. Previously, I’d held to a position where pretty much any sort of insult was allowed, short of racial slurs. I used this standard because I felt it was about as objective as possible, but it’s led to a number of situations in the last couple years where I was defending behavior that made me nauseous, and I don’t want to do that anymore. …
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/9 "2021-02-24T03:12:34Z")
For what it’s worth, I intended to link to the “Hey Motherfuckers” thread, but I fucked that up.
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### Author:  [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/10 "2021-02-24T03:23:18Z")
[Were these the guys who interred the Japanese?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across/851674/1484)
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### Author:  [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/11 "2021-02-24T04:45:52Z")
Indeed, B.C. has an incredibly shameful legacy, it must be said, with having considerably more WW2 Japanese internment camps than any other province back then (although the other provinces were definitely culpable).
The main processing centre for the Japanese was through Vancouver’s Hastings Park, where they were separated from their faimilies and then sent to places in BC and across Canada.
But - like the US Democratic Party being the party of white privelege until the (R.) Southern Strategy in the late 60’s - Canada has no longer resorted to such abominable incarceration practices, so, if this has been long since in the rear-vew mirror _(but obviously not forgotten)_, then I think it would be much more constructive to focus on the current threat in the province next to it.
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### Author:  [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/12 "2021-02-24T15:23:14Z")
I’ve consulted my fellow Albertans and we’ve decided to turn off the taps to you impertinent ingrates.
Granting some mercy, we give you fair warning of what lies ahead for you:
day one - your houses are getting cold (or hot and humid if you live in southern Ontario)
day two - grocery stores no longer have fresh produce as delivery trucks have no diesel
day three - all fast food restaurants close down
day four - people notice that Amazon deliveries are no longer showing up on their doorsteps
day five - Walmart shelves are getting pretty bare
day six - plastic production plants shut down. 99.99% of manufactured goods cannot be made anymore.
day seven - everybody’s cars have run out of gas so they just sit at home in the dark. However your bicycles have free reign on the city streets.
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### Author:  [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/13 "2021-02-24T15:33:21Z")
Hahaha!
Sure, the whole country quickly grinds to a halt because Alberta, alone in this world, has gas!
They really are living in another reality to believe this kind stuff!
HaHaHa!
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### Author:  [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/14 "2021-02-24T15:36:10Z")
I disagree with your analysis of Quebec and its role in Canada; from Confederation on, Ontario has fostered anti-Francophone sentiment and embarked on its own expansionary program. One crucial role Quebec has played is that of a counterweight to imperialism, especially Canada’s involvement in British and American wars, and as a counterweight to the dismantling of social welfare in Canada. Virtually every province has engaged in anti-confederation rhetoric. The recent racism, and the historical anti-First Nations actions of the Quebec government is deplorable, but again, it is hardly alone in that.
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### Author:  [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/15 "2021-02-24T16:08:27Z")
> [@K364](#):
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> I’ve consulted my fellow Albertans and we’ve decided to turn off the taps to you impertinent ingrates.
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> Granting some mercy, we give you fair warning of what lies ahead for you:
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> day one - your houses are getting cold (or hot and humid if you live in southern Ontario)
> day two - grocery stores no longer have fresh produce as delivery trucks have no diesel
> day three - all fast food restaurants close down
> day four - people notice that Amazon deliveries are no longer showing up on their doorsteps
> day five - Walmart shelves are getting pretty bare
> day six - plastic production plants shut down. 99.99% of manufactured goods cannot be made anymore.
> day seven - everybody’s cars have run out of gas so they just sit at home in the dark. However your bicycles have free reign on the city streets.
Free REIN!
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### Author:  [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/16 "2021-02-24T16:57:14Z")
Kenny and the Lake of Fire party are a bunch of assholes, no doubt.
OP, hey, fuck you!
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### Author:  [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/17 "2021-02-24T17:03:41Z")
> [@K364](#):
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> I’ve consulted my fellow Albertans and we’ve decided to turn off the taps to you impertinent ingrates.
This is the same crap Wyomingites like to spout when the rest of the country points out how… _provincial_ we are.
Wyomingites are idiots.
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### Author:  [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/18 "2021-02-24T17:10:51Z")
> [@gregorio](#):
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> OP, hey, fuck you!
Express yourself, son - set yourself free - {{{{ _ **be you** _ }}} (right?)
So, whasssssuuuuuup?
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### Author:  [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/19 "2021-02-24T18:27:15Z")
> [@Kropotkin](#):
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> I disagree with your analysis of Quebec and its role in Canada; from Confederation on, Ontario has fostered anti-Francophone sentiment and embarked on its own expansionary program. One crucial role Quebec has played is that of a counterweight to imperialism, especially Canada’s involvement in British and American wars, and as a counterweight to the dismantling of social welfare in Canada. Virtually every province has engaged in anti-confederation rhetoric. The recent racism, and the historical anti-First Nations actions of the Quebec government is deplorable, but again, it is hardly alone in that.
Oh come on! The Quebec Language Police are the stuff of legend, and Quebec bigotries against “foreign” cultures and religions is blatant and despicable. **[This CBS 60 Minutes piece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxeQpGasEME)** on the Language Police would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad and infuriating to those who have to live it.
And Ontario fostering anti-Francophone sentiment? Ontario goes out of its way to have bilingual traffic signs on major freeways and bilingual government services, despite having a very small Francophone population, all of whom speak English. Quebec has strictly unilingual road signs, to the point that it’s a safety hazard for the many American and non-French Canadian tourists driving there. And of course the ever-present Language Police, making sure that business signs are mostly French and that the language of business is French whether the employees like it or not. No wonder so many companies have left. They are hell-bent on making it a unilingual province by force of law. Driver’s licenses and birth certificates are now issued only in French, making them potentially problematic in the US. But they don’t care, because sticking it to the English is what it’s all about.
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### Author:  [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
#### Post date: [February 24, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-alberta/933564/20 "2021-02-24T18:36:33Z")
> [@K364](#):
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> I’ve consulted my fellow Albertans and we’ve decided to turn off the taps to you impertinent ingrates.
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> Granting some mercy, we give you fair warning of what lies ahead for you …
Maybe you’re not aware that more and more of the cars on our roads are becoming electric, and trucks will soon follow. The major car manufacturers plan to stop making gasoline powered cars altogether within less than 15 years. Virtually all electric power generation in Ontario is nuclear or hydro, with increasing amounts coming from wind and solar. I wouldn’t be concerned about us in Ontario living in the cold and dark, I’d be more concerned about what happens to Albertans when their fossil-fuel economy collapses, if they don’t smarten up and adapt to the new reality.
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