# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/301 "2025-06-24T16:13:43Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Israel is beyond reproach,

> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Did I do it right?

Nope, that’s an idiotic strawman used by idiots who can’t separate criticism of Israel from demonization of Israel.

Here’s a handy guide if you’re too braindead to make the distinction on your own:

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> The three Ds of antisemitism or the 3D test of antisemitism is a set of criteria formulated in 2003 by Israeli human rights advocate and politician Natan Sharansky in order to distinguish legitimate criticism of Israel from antisemitism. The “three Ds” stand for delegitimization, demonization, and double standards, each of which, according to the test, indicates antisemitism.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/302 "2025-06-24T16:14:33Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> but God forbid I call out his raging hate boner for exactly one country that happens to be Jewish.

Yes, “happens to be”. Tell me, if I post something that reveals my raging hate boner for England does that mean I hate Anglicans?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/303 "2025-06-24T16:16:23Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Tell me, if I post something that reveals my raging hate boner for England does that mean I hate Anglicans?

Yes, the history of antisemitic and anti Anglican sentiments are identical, no differences there. Also, All Lives Matter.

_Even you_ aren’t _this_ fucking stupid.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/304 "2025-06-24T16:18:25Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> that’s an idiotic strawman used by idiots who can’t separate criticism of Israel from demonization of Israel.

See, here’s the rub.

You’re now going back to discussions of _Israel_

But when cornered, you brought in discussions of Jewish people. Your reference to ((zionists)) is just a crude allusion to people who hate all Jews. Your reference to a country that “happens to be” Jewish is a reference to Judiasm.

So save your sanctimonious bullshit.

You retreat into antisemitism when you can’t defend Israel. _You_ are making it about religion.

And that’s disgusting.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/305 "2025-06-24T16:18:33Z")

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Yes, avoid answering the hypothetical.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/306 "2025-06-24T16:20:00Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> See, here’s the rub.
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> You’re now going back to discussions of _Israel_
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> But when cornered, you brought in discussions of Jewish people. Your reference to ((zionists)) is just a crude allusion to people who hate all Jews. Your reference to a country that “happens to be” Jewish is a reference to Judiasm.

My point is that people like Charlie Tan hit all 3 D’s, clearly demonstrating what they _really_ hate.

> [@Moriarty](#):
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> You retreat into antisemitism when you can’t defend Israel. _You_ are making it about religion.

Are you actually fucking stupid? Antisemitism has very little to do with _religion_, you fucking dumbass. I’ve never met someone who hates Jews because we light Shabbat candles and keep kosher, or who moderates their hatred of me because I’m not observant. Antisemitism is an _ethnic_ hatred of the Jewish _people_.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/307 "2025-06-24T16:22:13Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Antisemitism is an _ethnic_ hatred of the Jewish _people_.

But antisemitism is not the _ethnic_ hatred of the Israeli _people_.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/308 "2025-06-24T16:23:53Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> But antisemitism is not the _ethnic_ hatred of the Israeli _people_

Nobody said it does, you cretin. That would be a baffling thing to say, since Israeli isn’t an ethnicity.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/309 "2025-06-24T16:27:01Z")

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> **[Ethnicity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicity)**
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> An ethnicity or ethnic group is a group of people with shared attributes, which they collectively believe to have, and long-term endogamy. Ethnicities share attributes like language, culture, common sets of ancestry, traditions, society, religion, history or social treatment. Ethnicities may also have a narrow or broad spectrum of genetic ancestry, with some groups having mixed genetic ancestry. Ethnicity is sometimes used interchangeably with nation, particularly in cases of et

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/310 "2025-06-24T16:27:16Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> What is comes down to is that neither the government Iran nor the government of Israel want peace.

One could say it looks that way. Right now Bibi & Co. want to keep using the “wartime leader” role (that they may have had thrust on them by their own negligence) to prevent losing power and facing accountability at home. Meanwhile the Mullahs and IRGC leaders have been supporting proxies attacking pro-West regimes in the region (not just Israel) for decades and will look for any excuse for their masses to keep chanting “Death to America/Israel” rather than rising against their rule.

Add Donald just wanting everyone to recognize him as the bigger and baddest of all and it just is a stunning combination.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/311 "2025-06-24T16:35:17Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Why don’t you just let it all out in the open and take your rightful place with the wonderful company _you_ keep: the Ayatollah, Tucker Carlson, Briahna Joy Gray, Nick Fuentes, Cadance Owens, and Jackson Hinkle.

I take it back, you seem to be in a really great place. Posting back to back just says, “I’m emotionally stable.”

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/312 "2025-06-24T16:53:59Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Yes, “happens to be”. Tell me, if I post something that reveals my raging hate boner for England does that mean I hate Anglicans?

I’ve actually encountered a few people like that. But they hated ‘anglos’ not Anglicans. To say hatred of Jews is vastly more common is an understatement.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/313 "2025-06-24T18:57:57Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> What is comes down to is that neither the government Iran nor the government of Israel want peace. Their actions speak louder than words.

Is it fair to say that while good people suffer on both sides… both sides are ruled by Assholes; Assholes which each people would be better off without…?

( Somebody stop me if this is racist or anti-semitic. Yeah, Babale… that’s you’re cue. )

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/314 "2025-06-24T19:20:43Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Why don’t you just let it all out in the open and take your rightful place with the wonderful company _you_ keep: the Ayatollah, Tucker Carlson, Briahna Joy Gray, Nick Fuentes, Cadance Owens, and Jackson Hinkle.

As opposed to Hitler, like yourself. If you had the power you’d probably kill every human being on Earth outside the borders of Israel, and every non-Jew inside its borders. Because everyone who isn’t a carbon copy of you is a _threat_ and has to be killed “in self defense”.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/315 "2025-06-24T19:30:27Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Is it fair to say that while good people suffer on both sides… both sides are ruled by Assholes; Assholes which each people would be better off without…?
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> ( Somebody stop me if this is racist or anti-semitic. Yeah, Babale… that’s you’re cue. )

I don’t see which of the three D’s you’re hitting, so no, that would be an example of non anti semitic criticism of Israel. Was that really that hard?

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> As opposed to Hitler, like yourself. If you had the power you’d probably kill every human being on Earth outside the borders of Israel, and every non-Jew inside its borders. Because everyone who isn’t a carbon copy of you is a _threat_ and has to be killed “in self defense”

LOL, ok buddy. That’s the most delusional thing I’ve ever heard.

You do know that I live outside of Israel, and that I’m married to a non-Jewish person, right?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/316 "2025-06-24T19:31:43Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> You do know that I live outside of Israel, and that I’m married to a non-Jewish person, right?

How many times have you killed her?

Ballpark estimate is fine.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/317 "2025-06-24T19:32:49Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> How many times have you killed her?
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> Ballpark estimate is fine

I’m glad you edited that second part in, because I definitely lost count.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/318 "2025-06-24T19:36:51Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> You do know that I live outside of Israel, and that I’m married to a non-Jewish person, right?

I feel sorry for them. And you would move to Israel first, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/319 "2025-06-24T19:46:30Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I feel sorry for them

I’d say that I feel sorry for anyone you managed to dupe into an interpersonal relationship, but based on the way you’ve posted about women before, I think that’s a _very_ unlikely scenario.

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> And you would move to Israel first, obviously.

If I hated everyone who isn’t Israeli or Jewish this much, you’d think I’d do that _now_…

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/320 "2025-06-24T19:50:39Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Is it fair to say that while good people suffer on both sides… both sides are ruled by Assholes; Assholes which each people would be better off without…?

Yep, I’d say that’s a fair assessment.

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