# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/521 "2025-06-29T02:56:52Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Well, that’s a reasonable reply to his post. “There’s only one reason to enrich beyond 60%” is our in left field I don’t really see how. The fact that these scientists are part of a program that went for weapons grade enrichment is what shows that they aren’t merely innocent nuclear power enthusiasts. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/522 "2025-06-29T03:34:17Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > But i didn’t see Banquet\_Bear denying that Iran was working towards nuclear bombs, only whether the people Israel killed were. …I’m not going to reply directly to Babale because I’ve blocked them. But the sort of conduct they are doing here is exactly the same when asked for evidence that Hamas were using hospitals as command and control bunkers, or were using civilians as human shields and that’s why women and children kept dying. It’s _deflection_. Not even the Jerusalem Post tried to argue that all of the scientists targeted were part of the nuclear weapons programme. For example: here’s the bio for Seyyed Amir Hossein Feghhi. > [@wiki](#): > > Feghhi played a key role in Iran in designing and launching national projects for peaceful nuclear technology. He was recognized as one of Iran’s distinguished scientific luminaries. > **[Seyyed Amir Hossein Feghhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seyyed_Amir_Hossein_Feghhi)** > > 'Seyed' Amir Hossein Feghhi (September 11, 1978 – June 13, 2025) was a prominent Iranian nuclear engineer and academic, recognized for his significant contributions to the field of nuclear physics and nuclear engineering. He was the Deputy of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran and a faculty member at Shahid Beheshti University (SBU). He was killed during the opening attacks of the Iran–Israel war. > Feghhi was one of Iran’s prominent nuclear scientists and an active researcher in cancer trea... There is nothing there at all in his bio to suggest he would even have the time to take part in developing nuclear weapons. Nor does a cursory search anywhere else on the internet. I can’t see where the IDF said why he was targeted. He was the Deputy of this organisation that doesn’t look controversial at all. > **[Atomic Energy Organization of Iran](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Energy_Organization_of_Iran)** > > The Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) is the main Iranian government agency responsible for operating nuclear energy and nuclear fuel cycle installations in Iran. The AEOI is the primary organization responsible for nuclear technology research and development activities in Iran. The AEOI was involved in formerly undeclared nuclear activities including enrichment facilities at Fordow and Natanz. > The AEOI's headquarters are in the northern Amir Abad district in Tehran, but it has facilitie... But the moment you push back on this: just even slightly, the responses are absolutely _unhinged_. I don’t understand why Feghhi would be considered a legitimate target for assassination. But if he is: then the equivalent in Israel would _also_ be a legitimate target. Because Israel is also developing nuclear weapons in defiance of international treaties and norms. Do we all agree it should be open season on nuclear scientists anywhere? The current head of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission Moshe Edri. 25 years in the IDF. The chairman is the Prime Minister of Israel. Legitimate targets? What exactly are the rules now and how does it all work? I remember last year when I mentioned the Nakba in another thread and Babale accused me of antisemitism. And now Palestinians are facing something orders of magnitude worse than the Nakba. Babale is engaging in a tactic of _silencing_ opposition. But he isn’t going to silence me. Because the facts are all on my side. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/523 "2025-06-29T10:27:39Z")
But he cited the opening of The Dictator! What could be more compelling than that? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/524 "2025-06-29T10:53:54Z")
@Chronos I see you had time to wrongly nitpick BB on what nuclear scientists do ( both nuclear power and nuclear medicine being legit fields of study Iranians engage in in addition to pure theoretical work), but no time to correct yourself when multiple posters corrected you on the fact that Iranian hospitals and schools were, in fact, attacked. Why is that? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/525 "2025-06-29T11:07:38Z")
Regardless of whether Israel has the moral right to try and destroy Iran’s nuclear capability, they were dumb to even try (and we were even dumber to join in) – the latest and best data indicates that, at best, we probably did minimal damage to their program (months of delay, perhaps), but undoubtedly hardened their resolve, as well as obliterating the chances of diplomacy working (as it did before for the JCPOA). And that doesn’t even get into whatever long-term unintended and unpredictable consequences we’re going to see. Just colossal stupidity all around – which is what we should expect from the likes of Netanyahu and Trump. And fuck all the warmongers. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/526 "2025-06-29T11:26:09Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > By “intentionally starved Gaza and prevented aid from reach the people living there”, are you possibly referring to interdicting shipments of food and aid that were being diverted to Hamas, including reselling relief supplies for cash to buy more weapons with? So… you’re saying 100% of such supplies were going to Hamas and none at all were going to civilians? Because Israel didn’t just stop some aid, it stopped _all_ aid. I find it doubtful that absolutely everything was going to Hamas for the simple reason that starvation wasn’t rampant prior to the Israel campaign against Gaza. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Babale is engaging in a tactic of _silencing_ opposition. Babale has to silence all opposition and evidence contrary to his position because to do otherwise would force him to confront the fact that Israel is engaged in crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and wars of aggression. As he is strongly invested in Israel being the Good Guys and identifies with that nation admitting that Israel’s current government’s actions are wrong would be a blow to his own self-image. So he must deny, deny, and deny. I’ve pretty much given up trying to make him see reason. He has to come to an epiphany on his own. Or go down on the wrong side of history. It’s sad, really. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/527 "2025-06-29T11:57:14Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Babale has to silence all opposition and evidence contrary to his position because to do otherwise would force him to confront the fact that Israel is engaged in crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and wars of aggression. As he is strongly invested in Israel being the Good Guys and identifies with that nation admitting that Israel’s current government’s actions are wrong would be a blow to his own self-image. So he must deny, deny, and deny. Fucking hell, the faux psychoanalysis is _so_ tiresome. When this war ends, and it turns out that BanquetBear’s cited wild projections of hundreds of thousands starved and dead was total bullshit, the Palestinians don’t leave Gaza, Israel doesn’t annex it, and no settlers move in - I wonder if any of you will take even half a moment to think, “Man, all these things I believed will happen didn’t come to pass, I wonder why?”. I _highly_ doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/528 "2025-06-29T11:59:07Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > When this war ends, and it turns out that BanquetBear’s cited wild projections of hundreds of thousands starved and dead was total bullshit, the Palestinians don’t leave Gaza, Israel doesn’t annex it, and no settlers move in - I wonder if any of you will take even half a moment to think, “Man, all these things I believed will happen didn’t, I wonder why?”. I _highly_ doubt it. Most, because that’s _not_ what will happen. What will happen is everything you deny in your attempt to defend and promote genocide. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/529 "2025-06-29T12:01:25Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > There is nothing there at all in his bio to suggest he would even have the time to take part in developing nuclear weapons. Nor does a cursory search anywhere else on the internet. I can’t see where the IDF said why he was targeted. He was the Deputy of this organisation that doesn’t look controversial at all. So, you didn’t read far enough into that cite to get to the end of the first sentence? > [@](#): > > The Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) is the main Iranian government agency responsible for operating nuclear energy and nuclear fuel cycle installations in Iran. Yes, the guy who’s a deputy of the organization that’s in charge of enriching uranium is involved in the project that’s the reason they’re enriching uranium. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > But if he is: then the equivalent in Israel would _also_ be a legitimate target. Because Israel is also developing nuclear weapons in defiance of international treaties and norms. Do we all agree it should be open season on nuclear scientists anywhere? That’s like asking “Are soldiers legitimate targets? Is it open season on military members everywhere?”. Yes, when you’re in a war, it’s legitimate to target those who are making war. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/530 "2025-06-29T12:07:46Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yes, the guy who’s a deputy of the organization that’s in charge of enriching uranium is involved in the project that’s the reason they’re enriching uranium. No no no! Once the Uranium is enriched, who _cares_ where it achieves criticality? That’s not _his_ department! ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/531 "2025-06-29T12:25:01Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yes, the guy who’s a deputy of the organization that’s in charge of enriching uranium is involved in the project that’s the reason they’re enriching uranium. …so you agree that the President of Israel, the current chairman of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission is _also_ a legitimate target? Should the world take him out? Israel are developing nuclear weapons. Probably enriching uranium as we speak. How about Koguchi Masanori, President of the Japanese Atomic Energy Association? They are responsible for responsible for operating nuclear energy and nuclear fuel cycle installations in Japan. But is he _also_ a war criminal? I don’t think a couple of words in a Wikipedia article are enough to justify dropping a bomb on someone while they sleep. If you want to assert that someone is an active part of a nuclear weapons programme I think you should actually provide _evidence_ they are part of an active nuclear weapons programme. That isn’t too much to ask. Otherwise you run the risk of being a gullible idiot who believed Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, that Hamas were hiding in every hospital. > [@Chronos](#): > > That’s like asking “Are soldiers legitimate targets? It isn’t like that at all. Because it wasn’t a “war.” It was a “pre-emptive strike.” It was a series of targeted assassinations of mostly scientists with _no proven connection_ to the nuclear weapons programme. Iran was in the middle of negotiations at the time. Then they killed the person who was in charge of the negotiations. If you recall, they did exactly the same thing when they were negotiating a ceasefire with Hamas. It’s the _playbook_. You’d have to be a fool to just blindly trust Israels and the United States assessments on this at this stage. How many times do they have to lie to you before you start not trusting anything they say? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/532 "2025-06-29T12:27:07Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > …it turns out that BanquetBear’s cited wild projections of hundreds of thousands starved and dead was total bullshit… Let me guess: all of the victims died of typhus. That’s how these stories go, right? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/533 "2025-06-29T12:38:25Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Babale has to silence all opposition and evidence contrary to his position because to do otherwise would force him to confront the fact that Israel is engaged in crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and wars of aggression. …I am currently going through some horrible things in my personal life. Its been going on for awhile. It forced me to not post here for a while. And when I returned to the boards Babale greeted me with a joke about thinking I must have been killed in a pager attack. Both Babale and his offsider Smapti had a good chuckle about that. And when I shared with him just a little bit of what I’m going through he told me “good”. That I deserved it. Its why I can no longer engage with them any more. That was more hurtful than when they accused me of antisemitism because I said the N word. (Nakba) I no longer care why Israel is doing what it’s doing. All that matters now is what it _is_ doing, and stopping them. And I no longer care about why Babale is blindly defending Israel. I only care about what he says, and I’ll challenge his words if I can, because almost all of them are intentional disinformation and it’s important that I point that out. I used to think he was a good person. But rejoicing in someone else’s pain? He is telling us exactly who he is. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/534 "2025-06-29T12:46:40Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Fucking hell, the faux psychoanalysis is _so_ tiresome. OK. So then you’re a terrible person who supports ethnic cleansing and genocide. > [@Babale](#): > > When this war ends, and it turns out that BanquetBear’s cited wild projections of hundreds of thousands starved and dead was total bullshit, the Palestinians don’t leave Gaza, Israel doesn’t annex it, and no settlers move in - I wonder if any of you will take even half a moment to think, “Man, all these things I believed will happen didn’t come to pass, I wonder why?”. I _highly_ doubt it. When this war ends (although Netanyahu seems determined it never end) and all those accusations turn out to be true will YOU take “even half a moment to think” or will you still be in denial? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/535 "2025-06-29T13:01:56Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > OK. So then you’re a terrible person who supports ethnic cleansing and genocide. I don’t support ethnic cleansing and genocide. I’m also not delusional enough to think that’s what is happening during this war. > [@Broomstick](#): > > When this war ends (although Netanyahu seems determined it never end) and all those accusations turn out to be true will YOU take “even half a moment to think” or will you still be in denial? If these accusations were true, I’d be harshly critical of my own country, because I wouldn’t want it to behave in that way. I have no problem being critical of Israel. For example, there’s plenty about the specific way that GHF is being handled that I’m happy to criticize, if we want to have a real discussion about it. But if the conversation starts with “GHF is a fraud organization designed to lure Palestinians to their death”, I’m not going to get into nuanced criticism, I’m going to call you an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/536 "2025-06-29T13:11:52Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > For example, there’s plenty about the specific way that GHF is being handled that I’m happy to criticize, if we want to have a real discussion about it. OK. Four distribution sites are completely inadequate given the humanitarian crisis The amount of time such sites are open is inadequate in the extreme. Firing shots over a large crowd with live ammo is guaranteed to injure and kill - why are they doing that? If every day every location results in scores of people dead and more injured You Are Doing It Wrong. Why is there no reform? Why not step aside and let organizations with far more experience and expertise take over this? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/537 "2025-06-29T13:14:14Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > If these accusations were true, I’d be harshly critical of my own country, because I wouldn’t want it to behave in that way. The fact you refuse every scrap of evidence that Israel is, in fact, currently engaged in ethnic cleansing and genocide is proof of your denial. Is there false information out there? Yes. But not all information is false. At present third-party observers, Haaretz, and members of the IDF are all reporting absolutely appalling things in regards to food aid distribution in Gaza. They are all remarkably consistent. Yet you dismiss all of them, completely. At what point to you start to question your own assumptions? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/538 "2025-06-29T13:33:57Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Four distribution sites are completely inadequate given the humanitarian crisis I agree, they should create more sites. I believe they are working on that, but it’s absolutely not happening fast enough. That said, they’ve distributed something like 46 million meals in the last four weeks, so it’s not like they’re doing nothing. > [@Broomstick](#): > > The amount of time such sites are open is inadequate in the extreme. I have no idea if that is a fair characterization on the other hand. Keeping these aid distribution sites safe is a major ordeal. Maybe keeping them open longer would be helpful, maybe harmful. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Firing shots over a large crowd with live ammo is guaranteed to injure and kill - why are they doing that? First, no, firing a shot over a crowd is _not_ guaranteed to injure and kill. It depends on what is beyond the crowd; if you’re firing into a hillside, for example, it’s pretty much guaranteed _not_ to injure or kill. So that’s a strange statement? Second, they’re doing it because people are approaching a restricted military position. You’re welcome to go to Ukraine and approach some Ukrainian positions from the Russian border as long with fifty of your friends; I don’t think you’d like the result. > [@Broomstick](#): > > If every day every location results in scores of people dead and more injured You Are Doing It Wrong. Why is there no reform? Why not step aside and let organizations with far more experience and expertise take over this? Because those organizations have shown that they are completely unable to do an acceptable job of it: British-Israeli hostage Emily Damari says Hamas held her at UN facilities - BBC News [British-Israeli hostage Emily Damari says Hamas held her at UN facilities](https://share.google/CkPRR1Y8BRnalUEVM) UNWRA’s behavior is a major reason for the perpetuation of this conflict. It _absolutely_ had to be completely replace. People talk about needing to completely defund and rebuild American policing from the ground up. But UNRWA was _orders of magnitude_ worse than police departments in America. I’ll absolutely agree that they need to do much more and as fast as possible in terms of getting aid in. I will absolutely _not_ agree that they need to step aside and let terrorist supporters do it instead. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/539 "2025-06-29T13:36:56Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > At present third-party observers, Haaretz, and members of the IDF are all reporting absolutely appalling things in regards to food aid distribution in Gaza. They are all remarkably consistent. Yet you dismiss all of them, completely. At what point to you start to question your own assumptions? Because other third party observers and other members of the IDF are saying very different things, and when I look at my understanding of the situation in the area and in Israeli politics and of the way the IDF functions and of Israeli society, one version of events makes much more sense than the other. It would be like if someone tried to convince you that a major driving force in the Republican party is a desire to implement socialist policy. Maybe they had a bunch of alleged evidence, but it just wouldn’t really jive for you, would it? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/540 "2025-06-29T13:42:22Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > firing a shot over a crowd is _not_ guaranteed to injure and kill. What if you just shoot directly st the people? > **[IDF soldiers ordered to shoot deliberately at unarmed Gazans waiting for...](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000)** > > \*\*\* > [@Babale](#): > > they’re doing it because people are approaching a restricted military position. You’re welcome to go to Ukraine and approach some Ukrainian positions from the Russian border as long with fifty of your friends; I don’t think you’d like the result. They were told to go there to get food! Shooting at a starving person who arrived where you told them to get desperately needed provisions is pure barbarism. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=28)