# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/541 "2025-06-29T13:46:09Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > What if you just shoot directly st the people? Yeah, we all know what article is under discussion, thanks dude. That report is disputed: > **[Israeli military rejects report that soldiers told to fire at Palestinians...](https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/27/middleeast/idf-gaza-aid-distribution-orders-intl-latam)** > > More than 500 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli fire as they approached the aid sites or trucks carrying aid, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health. > [@Moriarty](#): > > They were told to go there to get food! Because you’re still parroting the lie that they were shot at the aid distribution site? These are incidents that occurred away from the aid center, when the aid centers were not even open, and people were coming in despite being told the area was closed and being warned off. > [@Moriarty](#): > > Shooting at a starving person who arrived where you told them to get desperately needed provisions is pure barbarism. It’s also not a thing that happened, so ya know. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/542 "2025-06-29T13:50:47Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Let me guess: all of the victims died of typhus. …the thing is with Babale is that he won’t quote me saying any of the things I _actually_ said. Because almost all of the time he is just making things up. On this I was quoting projections from this Lancet paper: [https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext) > [@](#): > > In recent conflicts, such indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death[9](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext#) to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. The projections are not “wild.” And I’ll break down why. The authors make a plausible case that many historical conflicts show the same pattern, that indirect deaths (not directly attribute to combat) can range anywhere between three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. For example, in the second Iraq war the Iraq Family Health Survey suggests there were about 150,000 violent deaths in the conflict while the ORB survey suggests there were over a million _excess_ deaths. The numbers appear on the surface to be wildly different. But that’s because they are measuring _different things_. And the death figures from the Gazan Ministry of Health only report deaths from bodies that have died from violent trauma and been identified and recorded in a hospital. So the current figure is about 58,400. For a while in the middle of the conflict the method of recording broke down. The TLDR version is Israel were either attacking or had too many hospitals under siege so they had to switch to a different methodology of recording deaths, and that methodology included media and social media reports of people dying. Then things calmed down a bit and they switched back to the old methodology. If you remember the big controversy about how “Hamas inflated the death numbers”: this was what it was all about. The switch in methodology meant deaths not verified in a hospital were removed from the list. But that doesn’t necessarily mean those people that were removed from the list _are not dead_. And these are the sorts of deaths that aren’t recorded in those numbers: - Bodies still trapped under the rubble - People that have died from starvation or starvation related illnesses (although this is being tracked separately) - People who die because they can no longer get cancer treatment And here’s a new one that only came up in the last couple of months: - People that die in northern Gaza. Because according to the Gaza Flash Updates from last month, the recording of deaths from the north has stopped. All of the hospitals in the north are no longer functional. There simply is no way to get accurate numbers. And as I noted in the main thread: communication with the north is extremely difficult right now. I’m reading scattered tweets from people talking to people trapped up there: and it sounds as horrific as you can probably imagine. Most of Gaza are now no-go zones. You can check out the interactive maps here. > **[Cartographic Resistance](https://gazamaps.com/app)** > > Israel uses maps as weapons. We study those maps. So this is the fuller context of everything I said back then. Which was that every humanitarian agency on the ground agrees that the numbers from the Gaza Ministry of Health are likely a substantial undercount, and that some academics suggest that the fuller number of deaths could well be over a hundred thousands. So when Babale claims that “BanquetBear’s cited wild projections of hundreds of thousands starved and dead was total bullshit”: the reality is that nobody knows how many have actually died, and we won’t know that probably for years, maybe _ever_. But it certainly isn’t only 58,000. And I see that Babale is posting disinformation about UNRWA again. Here are UNRWA’s responses to claims from the Israeli government. [https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-2025](https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-2025) About Hamas using UNRWA facilities: > [@UNRWA](#): > > **The Claim:** Hostages were held in UNRWA shelters during the war. > > **The Facts:** Claims that hostages have been held in UNRWA premises, even if previously vacated during the war, are extremely serious. UNRWA has no way to find out based on the current information available from media and open sources reports only. Those who have such information or more information on this allegation are encouraged to pass it on formally to UNRWA or other parts of the United Nations. UNRWA continues to call for independent investigations into claims of misuse of UNRWA premises by Palestinian armed groups, including Hamas, and all other allegations that keep coming against the Agency. [https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-2025](https://www.unrwa.org/unrwa-claims-versus-facts-2025) There have been claims made in the media. UNRWA have asked those who have more information about those claims to come forward. So far they haven’t. They cannot investigate it further because they have no information to work from. Also from the article Babale cited: > [@BBC](#): > > Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s PM programme, Unrwa’s director of communications Juliette Touma was asked about Ms Damari’s claims. She said: "For many, many months we did not have access to several of our facilities. If the hostages were held in UNRWA facilities that were abandoned there really isn’t anything that UNRWA could do about that. What Babale posted does not show “that they are completely unable to do an acceptable job of it.” That’s a completely bullshit assertion. It has absolutely nothing at all do with aid distribution. And UNRWA are not the only aid agency on the ground. And its important to note that since the start of the conflict the IDF have set up and used as defensive positions, staging areas, and even moved in, Gazan schools, universities, hospital, medical centres, houses, Mosques. Then often after they abandon them, they destroy them. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/543 "2025-06-29T14:04:04Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > That report is disputed: Ah, yes. From your cite > [@](#): > > Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Israel Katz have also rejected the report as “vicious lies designed to discredit the IDF – the most moral army in the world.” Who could question the _most moral_ army in the world? And from such an impeccable source as Netanyahu! Meanwhile… > [@](#): > > If people arrive early and approach the checkpoints, they get shot. If they arrive on time, but there is an overflow and they jump over the mounds and the wires, they get shot. If they arrive late, they shouldn’t be there because it is an ‘evacuated zone,’ so they get shot. > > AITOR ZABALGOGEAZKOA, MSF EMERGENCY COORDINATOR IN GAZA > **[Gaza Humanitarian Foundation aid distribution system must be dismantled](https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/latest/gaza-humanitarian-foundation-aid-distribution-system-must-be-dismantled)** > > One month after its launch, this US-backed aid scheme has been deadly and done little for Palestinians in desperate need of food and other critical supplies. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/544 "2025-06-29T14:09:50Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > **If** they arrive on time, but there is an overflow and **they jump over the mounds and the wires, they get shot**. Emphasis mine. A source that presents “they jumped over fences and crossed embankments towards a military position and got shot” as some crazy humanitarian crime has given up all credibility. That’s some Ashli Babbitt level bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/545 "2025-06-29T14:16:33Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > they jumped over fences and crossed embankments towards a military position and got shot” They were starving people there to get food, you inhumane pustule. And they were there because they were told to go there. Shooting people as a form of crowd control is utterly evil. (This is the equivalent of Nazis going into Jewish ghettos and shooting people to alleviate overcrowding. Hey, it’s just keeping order, right?!) Fuck your glee about mass murder ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/546 "2025-06-29T14:16:55Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > Four distribution sites are completely inadequate given the humanitarian crisis > > I agree, they should create more sites. I believe they are working on that, but it’s absolutely not happening fast enough. That said, they’ve distributed something like 46 million meals in the last four weeks, so it’s not like they’re doing nothing. > [@Babale](#): > > > [@Moriarty](#): > > > > **If** they arrive on time, but there is an overflow and **they jump over the mounds and the wires, they get shot**. > > Emphasis mine. > > A source that presents “they jumped over fences and crossed embankments towards a military position and got shot” as some crazy humanitarian crime has given up all credibility. That’s some Ashli Babbitt level bullshit. Uh, since we agree that there are not enough sites, it follows that they will get overcrowded. The responsibility IMHO does fall on the ones that control how many distribution centers are there, because things like that are so predictable to happen. As I defended Israel when it was attacked, so I say now that when the predictable does happen, and in desperation some people do jump a fence to help a relative survive one day more, it is really inhumane to ignore the main reason why something like that takes place. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/547 "2025-06-29T14:26:18Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > They were starving people there to get food, you inhumane pustule. And they were there because they were told to go there. So were the people who received the 46 million meals that have been given out the difference is whether or not they jumped a fucking fence at a military site. Holy fucking shit, I’m not saying it’s a good thing that people got shot. I’m saying that people who jump over fences at military outposts are going to get shot anywhere in the world. It’s not evidence that Israel wants to kill all the Palestinians, and it’s not what some of you, including BanquetBuddy, have tried to paint it as - people standing in line where they were told to when the IDF just unloads on them. > [@Moriarty](#): > > (This is the equivalent of Nazis going into Jewish ghettos and shooting people to alleviate overcrowding. Hey, it’s just keeping order, right?!) What the fuck? Shooting people to “alleviate overcrowding” is equivalent to shooting people who crossed multiple barriers on their way to a military site? Are you actually stupid? > [@Moriarty](#): > > Fuck your glee about mass murder I’m not _gleeful_ about any deaths, you fucking piece of shit. Not calling something a genocide is not the same as being _gleeful_ about it. You fucking braindead moron. There are more than exactly two possible positions, “genocide” and “fantastic”. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/548 "2025-06-29T14:36:20Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Holy fucking shit, I’m not saying it’s a good thing that people got shot. I’m saying that people who jump over fences at military outposts are going to get shot anywhere in the world. It’s not evidence that Israel wants to kill all the Palestinians, and it’s not what some of you, including BanquetBuddy, have tried to paint it as - people standing in line where they were told to when the IDF just unloads on them. Good thing I was not the one saying that, because still it was so predictable. Criminally responsible still because of what the Netanyahu government decided to do. [https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/gaza-aid-death-food-shot-israel-palestinian-family-idf-rcna21](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/gaza-aid-death-food-shot-israel-palestinian-family-idf-rcna21) > The United Nations, which had previously run a network of hundreds of aid distribution points across Gaza but has since been sidelined by Israel, warned that reducing aid distribution to GHF’s four sites would be chaotic, insufficient and dangerous. Since GHF began operations on May 26, scores of Palestinians have been killed by Israeli forces while trying to reach its aid distribution sites, according to the local health ministry and witnesses. > > The United Nations human rights office said on Tuesday that more than 400 Palestinians are believed to have been killed while trying to collect humanitarian aid in just under a month.1975 ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/549 "2025-06-29T14:47:00Z")
…more Babale fact-checking: The “46 million meal” number isn’t independently verified. It’s a claim made by the Israeli Foreign Ministry. But even if that’s true: that breaks down to approximately 0.63 meals per person per day (a very rough calculation) . That won’t be getting you close to the recommended caloric in take per day. It isn’t even a single meal. And a reminder that these packages include things like pasta that require fuel and water: but the GHF aren’t providing fuel and water. So instead, many Palestinians are grinding up the pasta and using it to make a rudimentary bread. And also a reminder that there are only four distribution points. And there are _none in the north_. The _only_ people that are able to access food are those that are fit and strong enough to run the gauntlet. It’s likely those people are (through no fault of their own) able to secure _more_ supplies as in taking multiple meals. And those that are not able to travel, who cannot risk accidentally stumbling into a street or a neighbourhood that has been declared a militarised zone, _won’t_ be able to access that food. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/550 "2025-06-29T14:55:57Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > The “46 million meal” number isn’t independently verified. It’s a claim made by the Israeli Foreign Ministry. Interesting how BanquetBuddy needs to note his distrust of this source, but he’ll happily parrot unverified information released by the Hamas controlled Gaza Ministry of Health. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/551 "2025-06-29T14:59:43Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Good thing I was not the one saying that, because still it was so predictable. Criminally responsible still because of what the Netanyahu government decided to do. That’s probably why I wasn’t talking to you in that quote, huh? There’s a huge fucking difference between “Netanyahu is fucking this up” and “Netanyahu is engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing”. The former might be a position I’d agree with you on, if I wasn’t constantly bombarded with the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/552 "2025-06-29T15:01:35Z")
…more Babale fact checking: The Hamas Ministry of Health numbers _are_ being painstakingly, independently verified. It’s a process that historically takes a number of years to do, and every single time in the past the Hamas numbers have shown to be an _undercount_. And those numbers are accepted by almost everyone as the best estimate for casualties in Gaza. It’s accepted by the IDF. By the American State Department. We have names and ages and where and how they died and if you want to, you can go and check them yourself. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/553 "2025-06-29T15:04:22Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > That’s probably why I wasn’t talking to you in that quote, huh? Is that “probably” that is the issue, I mean your efforts here to clear the authorities from the killings in this situation look inhuman, using points that walk like an inhuman, talks inhuman… etc. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/554 "2025-06-29T15:18:50Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > That’s some Ashli Babbitt level bullshit. I object to that. The J-sixers were fat bearded pieces of shit dressed in Camo. The Palestinians are starvation thin and their only Camo is that they look like they could be on orange UNICEF boxes. There are lots of other differences too… ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/555 "2025-06-29T15:31:12Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > And when I shared with him just a little bit of what I’m going through he told me “good”. That I deserved it. To be clear, since BanquetBear is a lying smarmy fuck - what I said was that I would apply the same logic he applies to any businesses on the BDS list to his business. Somehow wanting any business remotely associated with my country to fail is totally cool and based, but turnabout makes me a disgusting evil monster. IIRC I literally said that if I lived in New Zealand I would boycott, divest, and whatever the fuck the S stands for his business. Pretty precious of him to clutch his pearls over that. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/556 "2025-06-29T15:43:21Z")
…some details on how the numbers are reported: > [@ABC](#): > > Israel’s invasion has destroyed much of the administrative capacity in Gaza, but some agencies, like the Ministry of Health (MoH) are still functioning. > > The ministry coordinates with its counterpart in the West Bank, which is controlled by the internationally recognised Palestinian Authority, although there is significant duplication of functions, according to the World Health Organisation and other medical groups. > > “Control of the MoH was given back to the PA as part of the 2017 reconciliation agreement between Fatah and Hamas,” Physicians for Human Rights Israel, a charity which helps with multiple aspects of healthcare in Gaza, told the ABC. > > “One of key components of the agreement was the transfer of administrative control of Gaza, including the Ministry of Health, back to the Palestinian Authority. However, the full implementation of the agreement was not entirely realised.” This part is _important_. Because as much as the Ministry of Health is painted as “Hamas”, much of the administrative control is actually in the hands of the Palestinian Authority. [How the death toll in Gaza is recorded and why experts say it is likely an undercount - ABC News](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-19/gaza-death-toll-numbers-killed-israel-strikes-buried-body-parts/104259532) > [@](#): > > The ministry has a digital system, its Health Information Centre (HIC), which collates deaths from Gaza’s hospitals. > > It lists deaths using an identification number given to Palestinians born inside Gaza and sent to the Israeli military administration for approval. These numbers are later used for things like applying to Israeli authorities for permits to leave Gaza. > > The [destruction of Gaza’s 36 hospitals by Israeli troops (of which only 16 remain partially functional)](https://www.emro.who.int/images/stories/Sitrep_-_issue_41b.pdf?ua=1) meant the digital system broke down and for months, health ministry staff were not receiving updated information about how many people had died. This is what I talked about earlier. And this breakdown caused the temporary change in methodology. > [@](#): > > There is a robust system in place for verifying a death, identifying that person and adding them to the death toll even if a body cannot be found, or taken to a medical centre. > > Relatives can register the name of someone they believe is missing, presumed dead with the MoH. > > Then, the ministry will obtain various forms of evidence and testimony to verify the death and whether it was a direct result of an Israeli attack. I may have been a bit broad when I talked about this earlier, but this should provide clarity. There are layers of verification at the time of reporting. It _can_ include people missing under the rubble. But it relies on people reporting it. And sometimes…entire families are buried. > [@](#): > > The Ministry of Health casualty figures also only include people killed by the conflict, not those who have died from indirect causes like disease and malnutrition. This verifies what I said earlier. The ABC analysed the data at the time and found only 16 duplicate records (6 were minor errors), 46 incorrect genders, 36 babies with no ID numbers, 56 with shorter-than-normal ID numbers which the MOH said were deliberately shorter as placeholders while they searched for for the original number. As for more independent verification: > [@VOA](#): > > The 8,119 victims verified by the U.N. Rights Office in that seven-month period is considerably lower than the toll of over 43,000 provided by Palestinian health authorities for the full 13 months of conflict. > > But the U.N. breakdown of the victims’ age and gender backs the Palestinian assertion that women and children represent a large portion of those killed in the war. > **[Gaza women, children are nearly 70% of verified war dead, UN rights office says](https://www.voanews.com/a/nearly-70-of-gaza-war-dead-women-and-children-un-rights-office-says/7856343.html)** > > UN condemns finding in what it called a systematic violation of the fundamental principles of international humanitarian law I can’t find the actual details of how the OHCHR verification process works: I had it last year, but googling is failing me now. But they do have an independent process of verification. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/557 "2025-06-29T15:46:04Z")
…Babale calling ME a liar is hilarious, LOL. But you can _see_ the empathy just dripping off every word he says. > [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > The Palestinians are starvation thin You’ve been super-weird for most of this thread. But I’m blocking you now. Because you are sick in the head. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/558 "2025-06-29T16:27:05Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > interdicting shipments of food and aid that were being diverted to Hamas Or Israeli backed militias > **[Kerem Shalom aid convoy looting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerem_Shalom_aid_convoy_looting)** > > On 16 November 2024, the Popular Forces, an Israeli backed militia accused of links with IS, raided a convoy of 109 United Nations aid trucks and looted 98 of them, near Israeli military installations at the Kerem Shalom border crossing in the Gaza Strip. The perpetrators, who according to a UN memo may have had "protection" from the Israel Defense Forces, threw grenades and held truck drivers at gunpoint, forcing them to unload their aid. The incident further exacerbated the Gaza humanitarian T... ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/559 "2025-06-29T17:03:28Z")
It has been established fact for a while now that mother Theresa was, in fact, a bitch who got off on the suffering of others. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/560 "2025-06-29T19:30:50Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Interesting how BanquetBuddy needs to note his distrust of this source, but he’ll happily parrot unverified information released by the Hamas controlled Gaza Ministry of Health. Interesting how Babale immediately accepted without question the word of the Israeli military when they said “gosh, we’re not just shooting civilians” but he’ll happily smear without merit a far more reputable source about independently confirmed events. But then deflecting from, minimizing and outright lying about the death and suffering of others is kind of his jam. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=29)