# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/41 "2025-06-22T11:24:15Z")
I write this on a Sunday morning after another wildly unpopular and incompetent (R) president starts another unnecessary and pointless war in The Middle East after being easily manipulated and goaded by wealthy internal and external special interests with absolutely no brakes imposed by either the courts or Congress. This war will, once again, bankrupt America, alienate her allies, and mercilessly kill off millions of her citizens for no good reason. The silence is deafening. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/42 "2025-06-22T12:32:57Z")
I wish we had some sort of national intelligence agency with a director or something. Oh, right, just a few weeks ago, the DNI said that Iran wasn’t building nukes. Then, Trump said she’s wrong, and now she’s saying that they could have a nuke within weeks. What a load of bullshit. Honestly, Iran had more leverage by threatening to build a bomb than actually building it. North Korea has no leverage, since they already have one (other than being protected from invasion). Iran negotiated a deal with the Obama administration because they had leverage by not having a bomb. I cannot believe that we’re now at war with Iran. What a fucking shitshow. BTW, I love the posts above laying out all the times that Netanyahu claimed that Iran was on the cusp of making a bomb, for the last few decades. Everyone on this thread supporting this bullshit action, can you please stop being fooled by the bullshit and propaganda? Did you also think we had to invade Iraq for their nonexistent WMDs? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/43 "2025-06-22T12:38:28Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > BTW, I love the posts above laying out all the times that Netanyahu claimed that Iran was on the cusp of making a bomb, for the last few decades. Everyone on this thread supporting this bullshit action, can you please stop being fooled by the bullshit and propaganda? Did you also think we had to invade Iraq for their nonexistent WMDs? Here it is again: [![](https://i.redd.it/je424pemcj6f1.png) ](https://i.redd.it/je424pemcj6f1.png) Netanyahu has been lying about this for 3 decades, and it’s almost unbelievable that so many are still accepting these blatant lies. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/44 "2025-06-22T12:45:47Z")
America destabilized Iran’s democracy, then propped up a dictator for decades, then walked away from a diplomatic agreement. But Iran our the terrorists. As long as the killers have matching outfits and little flags on their shoulders, you trash are fine with terrorism, especially if the victims are Muslims. How many hospitals has Israel blown up? How many children have they intentionally starved to death? You people are trash. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/45 "2025-06-22T13:15:16Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Because Iran was months away from having a nuclear bomb! Netanyahu said so, and you know he’s correct because he’s been saying it for 33 years. Are you pretending that you now _don’t_ understand the concept of “breakout time” because it’s politically convinient to pretend that it’s beyond you? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/46 "2025-06-22T13:20:43Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …that neighbour is called _Israel_. > > They are currently waging war and/or occupying five countries. Committing a genocide in one of them. Conducting terrorist attacks like car bombs and pagers blowing up. Assassinating scientists, journalists, targeting hospitals. They’ve infiltrated these countries and have been planning this for _years_. Roflmao. Iran simps in _shambles_ over their precious Axis of Rapesistence being dismantled is an amazing thing to see. Between UNRWA’s monetary pipeline to Hamas being disrupted, the Axis being smashed, and now Iran itself first being shown to be a paper tiger and now the US joining in - the era of Iranian proxy terror is _over_. The people who were hoping such terror would be sufficient to destroy “the Zionist Entity” are, of course, upset; for the rest of the world, this means amazing things. We may be closer to a two state solution than we have been since Rabin’s death. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/47 "2025-06-22T13:24:09Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I wish we had some sort of national intelligence agency with a director or something. Oh, right, just a few weeks ago, the DNI said that Iran wasn’t building nukes. Then, Trump said she’s wrong, and now she’s saying that they could have a nuke within weeks. What a load of bullshit. Wow! Are we suddenly pretending that Tulsi “Agent of Russia” Gabbard is a _reliable source_? You’ve _got_ to be joking, right? Putting a Russian spy in charge of our intelligence agencies is a monumental disaster, only slightly nullified by the fact that Trump doesn’t seem to listen to her. (The Russian, I’m sure, are listening intently to all of the leaks she engineers - but that’s a different story). ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/48 "2025-06-22T13:24:56Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > BTW, I love the posts above laying out all the times that Netanyahu claimed that Iran was on the cusp of making a bomb, for the last few decades. Everyone on this thread supporting this bullshit action, can you please stop being fooled by the bullshit and propaganda? Did you also think we had to invade Iraq for their nonexistent WMDs? Oh, and you’re pretending you’ve forgotten what “breakout time” means, too? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/49 "2025-06-22T13:33:42Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Wow! Are we suddenly pretending that Tulsi “Agent of Russia” Gabbard is a _reliable source_? You’ve _got_ to be joking, right? Are you asking whether Gabbard or Trump is less reliable? Because, I have zero idea, and hate the fact that we’re going to war with this totally incompetent administration. > [@Babale](#): > > Putting a Russian spy in charge of our intelligence agencies is a monumental disaster, only slightly nullified by the fact that Trump doesn’t seem to listen to her. Trump doesn’t listen to anybody and has zero idea whether Iran is close to building a nuke. Netanyahu is also utterly unreliable on the subject. The only country that ever used a nuke on another country is the US. Even if Iran had nukes, there’s no reason to believe they would use them – that’s a suicidal action. North Korea is way nuttier than Iran and has had nukes for years and never used them on Korea or Japan or the US. Pakistan and India both have nukes and have been at war for each other for generations and never used them. Israel is surrounded by countries wanting to wipe it off the map and never used its nukes. The US didn’t have to get into this war, but now we’re not going to be able to get out. > [@Babale](#): > > Oh, and you’re pretending you’ve forgotten what “breakout time” means, too? Fuck you. I actually have no idea what “breakout time” means, and don’t you accuse me of being somehow coy or disingenuous. Stick that “pretending” bullshit up your warmongering ass sideways. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/50 "2025-06-22T13:47:38Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Fuck you. I actually have no idea what “breakout time” means, and don’t you accuse me of being somehow coy or disingenuous. Stick that “pretending” bullshit up your warmongering ass sideways. Gotcha, my bad - it was talked about in the other thread by some of the other people making the point you are making now. Basically, the complaint about the Iran nuclear deal was that it perpetually leaves Iran a few months of effort from making a nuke. The question raised was, how is this acceptable? And the term for the length of time it would take Iran to decide ‘now we are full out making a nuke’ is breakout time. We were supposed to believe that a deal that slightly lengthens breakout time is vastly superior to a war that _eliminated the nuclear program_. So it seems very odd that those same people would cry about Netanyahu pointing out that Iran was only a few years or months from a nuke for many years, as if this is dishonesty on his part. Suddenly, they pretend to forget what “breakout time” means - Iran’s breakout time to nukes has been short for many years now, yes. Because of actions taken by Israel and by the US, they were both delayed and made decisions not to make the all out rush for a nuke. But this doesn’t mean that someone pointing out the breakout time at various points in the past is being dishonest. And certain actions taken by Iran, most notably enriching 400kg of uranium to above 60%, demonstrate that they’re taking actions to close that breakout time and develop a nuke that they’ve _never_ taken before. Maybe that’s not what you were doing; but the other posters glibly posting about “oh, Netanyahu said this before!” when they’ve discussed breakout time in other threads are _absolutely_ dishonest motherfuckers. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/51 "2025-06-22T13:48:31Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Roflmao. > > Iran simps in _shambles_ over their precious Axis of Rapesistence being dismantled is an amazing thing to see. > > Between UNRWA’s monetary pipeline to Hamas being disrupted, the Axis being smashed, and now Iran itself first being shown to be a paper tiger and now the US joining in - the era of Iranian proxy terror is _over_. The people who were hoping such terror would be sufficient to destroy “the Zionist Entity” are, of course, upset; for the rest of the world, this means amazing things. > > We may be closer to a two state solution than we have been since Rabin’s death. …just a reminder: Bable is the genocidal piece of shit that thought it was funny to make a joke about thinking I had been killed by a pager when I hadn’t been on the board for a while. Because that’s just how _sick_ of a human being Bable is. Every accusation is a confession. The REAL monetary pipeline isn’t between UNRWA and Hamas, but between Israel, its proxies, and the mercenaries at the so-called “Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.” Bable called the first massacre by the IDF of Palestinians trying to get aid from the GHF “fake.” But there has been a _slaughter every day since then_. 23 killed in the last one. I’ll be blocking Bable after this. Again. Because he actually rejoices in this. They are positively _glowing_. Warcrimes, terrorism and atrocities committed by the IDF, he’ll defend every single one. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/52 "2025-06-22T13:53:28Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Between UNRWA’s monetary pipeline to Hamas being disrupted, the Axis being smashed, and now Iran itself first being shown to be a paper tiger and now the US joining in - the era of Iranian proxy terror is _over_. No, it’s entering a golden age, they’ll have _incredible_ levels of motivation to ramp up terror attacks, and no reason to think diplomacy has any purpose. This is the same sort of logic used in WWII, that dropping bombs on cities would make the enemy give up instead of getting angrier and demanding vengeance. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/53 "2025-06-22T14:05:24Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Bable is the genocidal piece of shit > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Every accusation is a confession. The second quote is not normally accurate, but seems very apropos here. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/54 "2025-06-22T14:31:43Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > The second quote is not normally accurate, but seems very apropos here. …genocide: > **[South-Africa-v-Israel.pdf](https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/South-Africa-v-Israel.pdf)** > > 1521.44 KB > **[Client Challenge](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2024/10/29/amos-goldberg-what-is-happening-in-gaza-is-a-genocide-because-gaza-does-not-exist-anymore_6730881_23.html)** > **[Statement on Why We Call the Israeli Attack on Gaza Genocide](https://www.lemkininstitute.com/statements-new-page/statement-on-why-we-call-the-israeli-attack-on-gaza-genocide)** > > December 29, 2023 > > The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, increasingly concerned about the deteriorating > humanitarian situation in the territory of the State of Palestine (including Gaza and the West > Bank), which has already resulted in the... [https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide](https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide) > **[Extermination and Acts of Genocide](https://www.hrw.org/report/2024/12/19/extermination-and-acts-genocide/israel-deliberately-depriving-palestinians-gaza)** > > In the 179-page report, “Extermination and Acts of Genocide: Israel Deliberately Depriving Palestinians in Gaza of Water,” Human Rights Watch found that Israeli authorities have intentionally deprived Palestinians in Gaza of access to safe water for... > **[Israel’s Crime of Extermination, Acts of Genocide in Gaza](https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/12/19/israels-crime-extermination-acts-genocide-gaza)** > > Israeli authorities have intentionally deprived Palestinian civilians in Gaza of adequate access to water since October 2023, most likely resulting in thousands of deaths and thus committing the crime against humanity of extermination and acts of... > **[Amnesty International concludes Israel is committing genocide against...](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/)** > > Amnesty International’s research has found sufficient basis to conclude that Israel has committed and is continuing to commit genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip. > **[Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territory: ‘You Feel Like You Are Subhuman’:...](https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/8668/2024/en/)** > > This report documents Israel’s actions during its offensive on the occupied Gaza Strip from 7 October 2023. It examines the killing of civilians, damage to and destruction of civilian infrastructure, forcible displacement, the obstruction or denial... > **[Document Viewer](https://docs.un.org/en/S/2025/130)** Happy to start a new thread on this when I have the time. But the legal case is very solid. Almost every humanitarian agency agrees, as do most reputable scholars and genocide experts, along with all of the evidence on the ground and the genocidal statements from Israeli leadership. Israel are committing genocide in Gaza. They committed warcrimes and atrocities in Lebanon, they are committing warcrimes in Iran, they are breaking international law in the West Bank. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/55 "2025-06-22T14:58:32Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Gotcha, my bad Thanks for the apology! Here’s the problem. The US is being run by the stupidest would-be dictator in history, dying for the chance to declare martial law and start rounding up people he doesn’t like. He has surrounded himself with unqualified morons, ass-kissers, and Christian Domionists itching to start World War III. He has already destroyed our diplomatic corps, and Pete fucking Hegseth is the SecDef. I’m about 80% sure that Trump only sent in the bombs because people were making fun of his two-weeks reference. This is the person that Netanyahu decided to goad into going to war for him, an unqualified moron surrounded by unqualified morons. This is a desperately scary situation. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/56 "2025-06-22T15:45:19Z")
Does my neighbour in this scenario have _any kind of reason_ for treating me like this? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/57 "2025-06-22T15:46:31Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > the era of Iranian proxy terror is _over_. Bwahahaha!!! You can’t possibly be this naive? Or do you just intend to blame somebody else as the source for all of the new terrorism that is to come? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/58 "2025-06-22T16:27:51Z")
I have a grandson in the Middle East right now. He’s activated Army National Guard and is posted to, I believe, Bahrain. It is expected that Iran will target any U.S. troops in the region, so I’m very worried about him. The idiot in charge has finally gotten a chance to shoot his big popguns and strut around as CinC. The consequences of this action mean nothing to him, since the military is nothing but suckers and losers without any humanity. Fucking hell. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/59 "2025-06-22T16:43:11Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I have a grandson in the Middle East right now. He’s activated Army National Guard and is posted to, I believe, Bahrain. That must be a nightmare for you and your family. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/60 "2025-06-22T16:52:16Z")
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