# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/581 "2025-06-30T00:32:49Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Netanyahu funded Hamas but didn’t? I do not understand this. Did he or didn’t he? In a way he did, because he allowed Qatari money to enter the strip, when he had the power to prevent this. About to the same extent that Obama funded Iran by unlocking their frozen funds - yes, there are controls on what they can do with the money, but money is also fungible. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/582 "2025-06-30T00:35:00Z")
Netanyahu said publicly that Hamas needs to be kept strong in order to be a counterweight to other Palestinian organizations - he thought that would help prevent a two state solution. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli\_support\_for\_Hamas#:~:text=the%20Palestinian%20population."-,Policy,Turkey]%20can%20help%20too."](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas#:~:text=the%20Palestinian%20population.%22-,Policy,Turkey%5D%20can%20help%20too.%22) Netanyahu has definitely and publicly been a long time ally of Hamas against two states. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/583 "2025-06-30T00:35:37Z")
FWIW…a quick Google search found this: - [**For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces** ; The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/584 "2025-06-30T00:48:47Z")
Netanyahu wants violence from Palestinians, so he can politically justify the ongoing oppression, land grabs and slow genocide. So he’ll prop up Hamas and sabotage anyone opposing them, because Hamas gives him what he wants. Every dead Israeli is a victory for Netanyahu. And Hamas too, but mostly for Netanyahu. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/585 "2025-06-30T00:49:39Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > > [@Babale](#): > > > > > > Second, they’re doing it because people are approaching a restricted military position. > > > > Why is the aid station for Gazans next to such a place? _Move one or the other._ This is not rocket science. > > The army is there to protect the aid station, obviously. It’s not nearby by _coincidence_. If the army wasn’t there, Hamas would come and kill the aid workers and the “Israeli collaborators” protecting them and take the aid. Rather counterproductive. If the people guarding the aid station distributing food to starving people keeps killing those same starving people _they’re doing it wrong whether they’re Hamas or the IDF._ So both sides are fuck-ups in that regard, even if the motivation for killing people is allegedly different. > [@Babale](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > I get that it’s a war zone - rules are slightly different than in peace time - but if you’re right next to a goddamned aid station for starving civilians try a little fucking restraint. Or relocate the aid station. Or relocate whatever is so fucking important that it’s worth more than a human life. > > For the last fucking time, the army is there to protect the aid distribution center and the workers who staff it. You can’t relocate them away from each other unless you want Hamas to kill the aid workers again. So they kill the people they’re supposed to be helping instead? What the actual fuck? That’s nonsensical. You know, _other_ countries have managed to feed hostile populations without murdering the starving on a daily basis. _Israel is doing it wrong._ Maybe they should fucking stop making perfect the enemy of the good and accept that some aid will be diverted, but what the hell, people might actually be able to eat. I don’t have an answer. Sure as hell the Israeli government doesn’t, either. > [@Babale](#): > > Remember, this is a ceasefire, not a peace treaty. It can end at any time. If Iran wants a more permanent peace, they’ll have to agree to give up enrichment. There is zero reason for Israel to agree to a peace that doesn’t include the elimination of Iran’s nuclear program and strict limits on their ballistic missiles too. So what is Israel planning to offer and/or give up in return to get that result? > [@Babale](#): > > Serious answer: I don’t support Netanyahu. I blame him for October 7th more than anyone else on the Israeli side, I disagree with almost all of his everyday policies, I find many of his political allies revolting, and most of all, I think his judicial reform bill is an absolute disgrace and a naked attempt to turn Israel into a dictatorship. I just want to note that we two ARE in agreement about everything in that paragraph. Even if we’re at odds about other things. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > So…Netanyahu funded Hamas but didn’t? I do not understand this. Did he or didn’t he? I’m sure @Babale will correct me if I have this wrong, but I believe _at the time_ Hamas was the government of Gaza so… aid to Gaza was sent to the government of Gaza _which was supposed to be acting on behalf of Gazans_ rather than spending it on bombs and mayhem. Which did not work out at all well for anyone in or near Gaza, as we have seen. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/586 "2025-06-30T00:57:39Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > > [@Babale](#): > > > > Remember, this is a ceasefire, not a peace treaty. It can end at any time. If Iran wants a more permanent peace, they’ll have to agree to give up enrichment. There is zero reason for Israel to agree to a peace that doesn’t include the elimination of Iran’s nuclear program and strict limits on their ballistic missiles too. > > So what is Israel planning to offer and/or give up in return to get that result? I don’t know if you were paying attention, but Israel _won_. What Israel _gives up_ is round 2. > [@Broomstick](#): > > I’m sure @Babale will correct me if I have this wrong, but I believe _at the time_ Hamas was the government of Gaza so… aid to Gaza was sent to the government of Gaza _which was supposed to be acting on behalf of Gazans_ rather than spending it on bombs and mayhem. Which did not work out at all well for anyone in or near Gaza, as we have seen. Yes, except that I’m not sure what you mean by “at the time” since Hamas is still the government of Gaza. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/587 "2025-06-30T01:04:46Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Serious answer: I don’t support Netanyahu. I blame him for October 7th more than anyone else on the Israeli side, I disagree with almost all of his everyday policies, I find many of his political allies revolting, and most of all, I think his judicial reform bill is an absolute disgrace and a naked attempt to turn Israel into a dictatorship. There’s a lot of space between ‘literal genocide’ and acting according to international norms, with due care and attention for the lives of civilians. Civilians who at best represent a massive inconvenience to Netanyahu. Do you really think the Israeli government, under a PM who is admittedly a bad guy, are doing the latter? The evidence seems pretty compelling by now that that they are not. They could do a better job distributing aid and are choosing not to, either because they don’t care, or they actively prefer it that way. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/588 "2025-06-30T01:07:02Z")
…more fact checking: Aid workers ARE being killed in Gaza. Mostly by the IDF. [Killing of health workers in the Gaza war - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_health_workers_in_the_Gaza_war#:~:text=Casualties,-Event&text=As%20of%2025%20June%202025,includes%20179%20employees%20of%20UNRWA). The total number is 224 humanitarian aid workers so far. That number includes the seven killed in the [World Food Kitchen attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Central_Kitchen_aid_convoy_attack#:~:text=The%20World%20Central%20Kitchen%20aid,Strip%2C%20killing%20seven%20aid%20workers.). It includes the 15 Palestinian Red Crescent workers who were executed in cold blood. Once again, Babale’s cite lacks verification. Hamas usually claims responsibility when they undertake a successful attack. They haven’t as far as I can tell, done so here. This fits more in the pattern of how the Israeli backed gangs have been operating than something that Hamas would do. I’m not discounting the possibility that Hamas were responsible: but once again, all we have are claims from Israel and the GHF. And neither of them have any credibility. The reporting from the OPT is much more measured: > **[Killings of Gaza Humanitarian Foundation workers - occupied Palestinian...](https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/killings-gaza-humanitarian-foundation-workers)** > > News and Press Release in English on occupied Palestinian territory about Safety and Security; published on 20 Jun 2025 by OHCHR > [@](#): > > The UN Human Rights office in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT) condemns the killing, including possible summary executions, of Palestinian staff associated with the so-called “Gaza Humanitarian Foundation” (GHF) by armed men allegedly affiliated with Hamas. These killings must end immediately, and those responsible held to account. > **[Killings of Gaza Humanitarian Foundation workers - occupied Palestinian...](https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/killings-gaza-humanitarian-foundation-workers)** > > News and Press Release in English on occupied Palestinian territory about Safety and Security; published on 20 Jun 2025 by OHCHR These killings were an atrocity. But they _didn’t_ happen at any of the GHF sites, they happened in transit. It points to obvious failings in the GHF’s and the IDF’s protection plan. Over 80% of Gaza are militarised zones under control of the IDF. They only have FOUR aid distribution sites. They reportedly knew of credible threats. But they couldn’t protect these men. Babale wants us to think the IDF are massacring Palestinians daily in _self-defence_. But they can’t even set up a safe corridor. Or put a few soldiers on each of the buses. In reality, the _real_ threat to aid workers are the IDF. In order to facilitate aid distribution in Gaza, I’m sure everyone would agree the best strategy is for the IDF to leave. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/589 "2025-06-30T01:29:07Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Yes, except that I’m not sure what you mean by “at the time” since Hamas is still the government of Gaza. I don’t know how much of Hamas is left and/or if it is even capable of functioning as a government at this time. And by “I don’t know” I mean _I don’t know,_ I haven’t looked into the matter in detail. So I am hedging my bets by saying “at the time” because at the time Netanyahu let the money flow to Gaza and Hamas that was the case for certain. Is that the case today? I don’t know, you tell me. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/590 "2025-06-30T01:58:03Z")
I don’t understand how you can draw that conclusion. What did the Ottomans ever do? The trouble didn’t begin until after the British had kicked them out. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/591 "2025-06-30T02:34:16Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > What did the Ottomans ever do? The trouble didn’t begin until after the British had kicked them out. Are you high off your ass? Do you want a list of Ottoman massacres of Jews? Not to mention Christians and other minorities? The Ottoman Empire was just as imperialist and colonialist as the British (if significantly less successful). I don’t know why you’re giving them a pass. (Or rather, I suspect I do, but I hope I’m wrong because it would be incredibly silly). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/592 "2025-06-30T02:47:49Z")
At some times, the Ottoman Empire was very friendly to Jews. At some times. It all depended on the whims of the current monarch. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/593 "2025-06-30T02:52:47Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > I don’t understand how you can draw that conclusion. What did the Ottomans ever do? The trouble didn’t begin until after the British had kicked them out. Well for one thing they had a sprawling, centuries-long empire that didn’t give democratic rights to its subjects. And one it collapsed, many societies made up by the subjects descended into internal strife. For another, they decided to get involved in a war against the British and French and lost. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/594 "2025-06-30T03:03:14Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > At some times, the Ottoman Empire was very friendly to Jews. At some times. It all depended on the whims of the current monarch. @Johanna noted that they showed up in 1516. By 1517, there were two major attacks on Jews by Ottoman troops, in Safed and in Hebron. They probably weren’t as bad as the Crusaders. That’s about the best you can give Ottoman rule overall. Yeah, there were some better times - one of the things that does make them slightly better. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/595 "2025-06-30T03:13:08Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Aid workers ARE being killed in Gaza. Mostly by the IDF. Are aid workers being targeted and killed by the IDF? Or is this the consequence of living in a war zone? I think there is a distinction there to be made. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/596 "2025-06-30T03:26:52Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Are aid workers being targeted and killed by the IDF? …I think it’s a _genocide_ Whack-a-Mole. I’ve provided the opinions of multiple humanitarian agencies and genocide scholars that support my opinion. The South African case presented to the International Court of Justice, which I’ve cited over and over again in this and other threads, lays out, in detail, the evidence of deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure, of academics, journalists, government workers, AND aid workers. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Or is this the consequence of living in a war zone? The number of aid workers killed in Gaza _is the highest in UN history._ > **[Number of aid workers killed in Gaza conflict, highest in UN history: Guterres](https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/06/1164086)** > > The United Nations paid tribute on Thursday to the 168 staff members who lost their lives in 2024. They include 126 personnel killed in Gaza, all but one of whom served with the UN agency that assists Palestine refugees, UNRWA.  We know that Israel have the technology to be able to pinpoint murder Iranian scientists hundreds of miles away. They can sabotage supply chains to blow up the pagers of Hezbollah operatives (along with some children and healthcare workers.) But you think the most aid workers killed in UN history was somehow just all a big accident? Or that Hamas were hiding under all those ambulances or aid distribution sites? Because there is no evidence of that at all. Either the IDF are incompetent or they were directly targeted. I’m open to both. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I think there is a distinction there to be made. Then make it. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/597 "2025-06-30T03:33:27Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Then make it. Hamas is known to [squat in hospitals](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/02/12/world/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-israel-hamas.html). If you hang out where Hamas is you will be targeted. Don’t hang out with the people they are after. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/598 "2025-06-30T03:39:18Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Hamas is known to [squat in hospitals](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/02/12/world/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-israel-hamas.html). …paywalled. And no: there is no evidence that Hamas were using Al Shifa as a command and control bunker. And hospitals are an entirely separate war crime to the targeting of _aid workers_, which is what we are discussing. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > If you hang out where Hamas is you will be targeted. This is complete and utter bullshit. We know the names of every single aid worker that has been killed. We know where they were killed and when they were killed. If they were “hanging out” with Hamas then you would be able to make that case. Not point to a generic NY Times article that isn’t even related to the subject of aid workers. So lets start with Yusuf al-Zeino and Ahmed al-Madhoun. When they were killed, what Hamas people were they hanging out with? I’ve got hundreds of other names on the list. Let’s do them one-by-one. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/599 "2025-06-30T03:42:46Z")
On what planet do you think living in a war zone is “safe” because you are an aid worker? Put another way, are you telling us Israel is targeting aid workers and trying to kill them? It is a goal for Israel to kill aid workers? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/600 "2025-06-30T03:56:11Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > On what planet do you think living in a war zone is “safe” because you are an aid worker? …strawman. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Put another way, are you telling us Israel is targeting aid workers and trying to kill them? Yes. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > It is a goal of Israel to kill aid workers? It’s a _genocide_ Whack-a-Mole. From the genocide convention: > [@convention](#): > > Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part From the South African submission: > [@](#): > > Israel has also laid waste to vast areas of Gaza, including entire neighbourhoods, and has damaged or destroyed in excess of 355,000 Palestinian homes, alongside extensive tracts of agricultural land, bakeries, schools, universities, businesses, places of worship, cemeteries, cultural and archaeological sites, municipal and court buildings, and critical infrastructure, including water and sanitation facilities and electricity networks, while pursuing a relentless assault on the Palestinian medical and healthcare system. Israel has reduced and is continuing to reduce Gaza to rubble, killing, harming and destroying its people, **and creating conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction as a group.** > **[South-Africa-v-Israel.pdf](https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/South-Africa-v-Israel.pdf)** > > 1521.44 KB And more: > [@](#): > > Doctors, journalists, teachers, academics and other professionals are also being killed at wholly unprecedented rates. To date, Israel has killed: over 311 doctors, nurses and other health workers, including doctors and ambulance drivers killed on duty;208 103 journalists, amounting to over one per > day,209 and more than 73 per cent of the total number of journalists and media workers killed globally in 2023;210 40 civil defence workers — responsible for helping to dig victims out of the rubble — killed while on duty; and over 209 teachers and educational staff. 211 144 United Nations employees have also been killed, the “highest number of aid workers killed in UN history in such a short time” Yes: I think it’s deliberate. Because the IDF are _capable_ of pinpoint accuracy. The killing of Refaat Alareer happened in his sisters apartment. He knew he was being targeted because they _called him to tell him_. He was an _academic_. In no way a threat. And he was taken out with _precision_. So I’ll ask you that question again. Yusuf al-Zeino and Ahmed al-Madhoun. When they were killed, what Hamas people were they hanging out with? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=31)