# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/621 "2025-06-30T15:01:11Z")
On what planet is killing aid workers “genocide?” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/622 "2025-06-30T15:12:56Z")
Earth? I mean, strictly speaking, I guess it would depend on why you’re killing the aid workers. If you’re killing them with the purpose of causing members of some target population to die, then yes, it’s genocide. Does the IDF have some other motivation? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/623 "2025-06-30T15:20:14Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Does the IDF have some other motivation? Targeting legitimate military targets that share the same space. > [@Chronos](#): > > If you’re killing them with the purpose of causing members of some target population to die, then yes, it’s genocide This is not the definition of genocide. If it were, then killing a single person due to their membership in a target population would count as a genocide. Every hate crime murder would be a mini genocide. The term loses all meaning if that’s what you use. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/624 "2025-06-30T15:21:18Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Earth? > > I mean, strictly speaking, I guess it would depend on why you’re killing the aid workers. If you’re killing them with the purpose of causing members of some target population to die, then yes, it’s genocide. Does the IDF have some other motivation? WTF? Read a dictionary. Killing aid workers is bad. It is certainly not genocide. Are we speaking the same language? Do you want me to cite ten dictionary definitions here? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/625 "2025-06-30T15:21:41Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > On what planet is killing aid workers “genocide?” …what a fucking disingenuous response to my post. With all due respect: are you just fucking stupid? From what I quoted earlier in the submission to the International Court of Justice: > [@](#): > > Doctors, journalists, teachers, academics and other professionals are also being killed at wholly unprecedented rates. To date, Israel has killed: over 311 doctors, nurses and other health workers, including doctors and ambulance drivers killed on duty;208 103 journalists, amounting to over one per > day,209 and more than 73 per cent of the total number of journalists and media workers killed globally in 2023;210 40 civil defence workers — responsible for helping to dig victims out of the rubble — killed while on duty; and over 209 teachers and educational staff. 211 144 United Nations employees have also been killed, the “highest number of aid workers killed in UN history in such a short time” The argument that is being made here, and you can see the entire context if you actually take the time to read the submission, is that Israel are _deliberately_ targeting doctors, nurses, journalists, academics, aid workers, along with schools, hospitals, universities, water and sanitation facilities, along with churches and Mosques, cemeteries, archaeological sites. And the reason for doing this is argued on page 54 in the section titled " Destruction of Palestinian life in Gaza." > [@](#): > > Across Gaza, Israel has targeted the infrastructure and foundations of Palestinian life, deliberately creating conditions of life calculated to bring about the physical destruction of Palestinian people. In addition to the attacks previously cited on homes, neighbourhoods, hospitals, water systems, agricultural lands, bakeries and mills, Israel has also targeted the foundational civil system in Gaza. Israel has targeted the Palace of Justice, 400 — the main Palestinian court building in Gaza — housing the Palestinian Supreme Court, the Constitutional Court, the Court of Appeal, the Court of First Instance, the Administrative Court and the Magistrates’ Court, as well as an archive of court records and other historical files. Israel has also significantly damaged the Palestinian Legislative Council complex.401 It has targeted Gaza City’s Central Archive building, containing thousands of historical documents and national records dating back over 100 years, and forming an essential archive of Palestinian history, as well as more modern records for Gaza City’s urban development. > … > Along with its destruction of the physical monuments to the history and heritage of the > Palestinians in Gaza, **Israel has sought to destroy the very Palestinian people who form and create that** **heritage** : Gaza’s celebrated journalists, its teachers, intellectuals and public figures, its doctors and nurses, its film-makers, writers and singers, the directors and deans of its universities, the heads of its hospitals, its eminent scientists, linguists, playwrights, novelists, artists and musicians. Israel has killed and is killing Palestinian story-tellers and poets, Palestinian farmers and fishermen, alongside Gaza’s local legends: pastry chef Masoud Muhammad al-Qatati, killed in an Israeli airstrike on his house on 3 November 2023, whose shop’s motto ‘let the poor eat’ — and reputation for giving away the popular Palestinian treat ‘knafeh’ to indigent customers — earned him the nickname ‘Father of the Poor’; 84- year-old Elham Farah, from one of Palestine’s oldest Christian families — a reputed accordionist and music teacher, known as ‘Mother Orange’ to generations of Palestinian music students for her shock of red hair, 417 — shot dead by an Israeli sniper outside the Holy Family Church in Gaza City when she returned home for warm clothes, and was left to bleed to death;418 and Al-Shaima Saidam, the student with the highest final high school exam grades in the whole of Palestine, killed with multiple members of her family in a strike on Al Nuseirat refugee camp.419 Just as Israel is destroying the official memory and records of Palestinians in Gaza through its destruction of Gaza’s archives and landmarks, it is obliterating Palestinian personal lives and private memories, histories and futures, through bombing and bulldozing graveyards,420 destroying family records and photographs, wiping out entire multigenerational families,421 and killing, maiming and traumatising a generation of children.422 As a Palestinian man, in a video by UNRWA, succinctly sums up: “These are all our memories, our entire lives . . . Now it’s all gone; everything has turned into ashes.”423 To make it crystal clear: I haven’t argued that “killing aid workers is genocide.” That’s the stupidest fucking thing I’ve heard from you out of all the stupid fucking things you have said. I’ve argued that Israel are committing genocide in Gaza, and I’ve presented evidence that Israel are committing genocide in Gaza, and one of the key elements of the case against Israel is the Destruction of Palestinian life in Gaza, which _includes_ things like the destruction of places of worship and the targeted killings of academics, journalists, healthcare and aid workers. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/626 "2025-06-30T15:25:42Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > No, I think systemically attacking aid workers (and journalists) fits a pattern that spells genocide. > [@The\_Librarian](#): > > You desperately want to play semantics, don’t you? > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > What does “genocide” mean? It’s an easy question. Find a dictionary. Get back to us. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I’ve already defined it for you but I’ll do it again for good measure. No one asked you. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …what a fucking disingenuous response to my post. It wasn’t a response to your post. You jumped in the middle and made it about you. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/627 "2025-06-30T15:30:48Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > It wasn’t a response to your post. > > You jumped in the middle and made it about you. …I made it about the _Palestinians that are being slaughtered by Israel in Gaza_. That apparently you don’t give a fuck about. Because you are more interested in winning a debate on the internet than anything else. Do you really need the Librarian to answer the question for you? Because I think I’ve done an adequate job of answering. We don’t actually need to quibble about the definition of genocide any more, if you think I’ve made the case. Do you want more clarification? Or are you happy to accept my answer? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/628 "2025-06-30T15:33:37Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > That apparently you don’t give a fuck about. Because you are more interested in winning a debate on the internet than anything else. Look at what you responded to…it was about aid workers and equating them to genocide. > [@The\_Librarian](#): > > No, I think systemically attacking aid workers (and journalists) fits a pattern that spells genocide. Is that genocide to you? Not anything else. That ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/629 "2025-06-30T15:43:21Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Look at what you responded to…it was about aid workers and equating them to genocide. …you are a fucking tool. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > On what planet is killing aid workers “genocide?” You asked ME that question. Directly. There is no other surrounding context. And I was the person who originally talked about aid workers in the context in the first place. Again: do you understand what genocide is now? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/630 "2025-06-30T15:46:17Z")
I just showed you the chain that started this. You are not the poster The\_Librarian. How is this about you? You weirdly made it about you. And tell me how “genocide” is what you call killing aid workers. It’s certainly a bad thing but it is not “genocide.” ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/631 "2025-06-30T15:48:52Z")
Who the fuck has said _only_ aid workers are being killed? Is this really all the board genocidaire-lovers are left with? Utterly transparent semantic games? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/632 "2025-06-30T15:50:54Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I just showed you the chain that started this. …you asked that question directly to ME. It wasn’t part of any chain. You are trolling now. Pathetic. Because just like every other time you are dodging the question when it becomes inconvenient. Do you condemn the IDF for the multiple atrocities they have committed in Gaza since October the 8th? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/633 "2025-06-30T15:52:17Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > It wasn’t part of any chain. > [@Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/626): > > No one asked you. It wasn’t a response to your post. You jumped in the middle and made it about you. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/634 "2025-06-30T15:54:14Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Who the fuck has said _only_ aid workers are being killed? > [@The\_Librarian](#): > > No, I think systemically attacking aid workers (and journalists) fits a pattern that spells genocide. There it is. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/635 "2025-06-30T15:54:52Z")
> [@Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit](#): > > No one asked you. …you literally did you fucking disingenuous idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/636 "2025-06-30T15:55:17Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > There it is. I don’t see the word “only” in **The\_Librarian** ’s post. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/637 "2025-06-30T15:55:49Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …you literally did you fucking disingenuous idiot. ISTM I responded to @The_Librarian . Not you. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/638 "2025-06-30T15:57:27Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > ISTM I responded to @The_Librarian . Not you. …do you condemn the IDF for the multiple atrocities they have committed in Gaza since October the 8th? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/639 "2025-06-30T15:57:53Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …do you condemn the IDF for the multiple atrocities they have committed in Gaza since October the 8th? Was I talking to you? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/640 "2025-06-30T15:58:30Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Was I talking to you? …you are talking to me now. Do you condemn the IDF for the multiple atrocities they have committed in Gaza since October the 8th? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=33)