# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/701 "2025-07-01T02:04:50Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I think you missed a part there. This can only be purposeful and disingenuous on your part.

Yeah, much like how he and his ilk keep pretending that you and I support Netanyahu, when we’ve condemned him plenty of times. It’s transparently bad faith.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/702 "2025-07-01T02:05:29Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> Concession accepted.

Concession was never offered.

> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> And you aren’t going to wring your hands over the summary execution of 15 Palestinian aid workers.

Is that how it went down? Lining up people and executing them? (or what do you consider an “execution?”)

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/703 "2025-07-01T02:06:44Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Is that how it went down? Lining up people and executing them?

Nope, but in before Banquet Buddy lies to you and says yes.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/704 "2025-07-01T02:11:15Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Is that how it went down? Lining up people and executing them? (or what do you consider an “execution?”)

…did you watch the video? Listen to the audio recordings? Read the report from Sky News?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/705 "2025-07-01T02:13:03Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …did you watch the video? Listen to the audio recordings? Read the report from Sky News?

Yup.

Do you maintain this is Israeli policy?

ETA: Sorry…the board is being weird with the quotes…I fixed this one but in case you got in early you may see something a bit different.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/706 "2025-07-01T02:14:08Z")

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Yes, the IDF said they all fell down an elevator shaft. Onto a single bullet, that went through their heads.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/707 "2025-07-01T02:14:36Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Yup.

[withdrawn because Whack-a-Mole accidentally quoted the wrong quote]

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Do you maintain this is Israeli policy?

I’ve already accepted your concession here.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/708 "2025-07-01T02:16:47Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> I’ve already accepted your concession here.

To be clear to all readers. @Banquet_Bear is lying. No concession. Just a liar here.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/709 "2025-07-01T02:17:30Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> To be clear to all readers. @Banquet_Bear is lying. No concession. Just a liar here.

Racist moron.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/710 "2025-07-01T04:34:45Z")

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If it’s not official policy, it’s not an atrocity? Is that how it works?

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/711 "2025-07-01T04:55:50Z")

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Semantics, the last resort of the morally bankrupt.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/712 "2025-07-01T05:13:21Z")

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Deny it ever happened, then downplay the extent to which it happened when confronted with proof, and insist the victims brought it upon themselves.

To paraphrase the late Molly Ivins, it sounded better in the original German.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/713 "2025-07-01T05:29:35Z")

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I think it’s clear to all readers that you’re an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/714 "2025-07-01T06:12:25Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> It backs up what I said. That Hamas _were willing to step down_. They will release all of the hostages and cede control of the strip.

LOL! LMAO, even!

Tell me, BanquetBuddy, what happened to the Gaza strip the last time Hamas was not “in control” but remained armed?

> **[Hamas seizes Fatah headquarters in Gaza](https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna19168118)**
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> Hundreds of Hamas fighters firing rockets and mortar shells captured the headquarters of the Fatah-allied security forces in northern Gaza on Tuesday, scoring a key victory in the bloody battle for control of the seaside strip.

Exactly how fucking stupid do you think Israel is?

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/715 "2025-07-01T07:59:09Z")

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…Babale is just demonstrating how weak and pathetic the IDF really are.

They’ve spent nearly two years bombing the hell out of Gaza. They kill on average 100 people a day, including women, children, _babies_. Sometimes there is so little remains left of their kids parents are forced to scoop them up in plastic rubbish bags. They’ve flattened Rafah. Attacked every hospital in the strip multiple times. Forced most of the population into concentration zones which makes up less than 20% of the land. They had Gaza under a total siege for months, not even letting in baby formula, and now are only letting in a trickle of food and when Palestinians try to get it, they risk getting shot and killed.

And yet: it sounds like they haven’t touched Hamas _at all_. Babale will have you believe that if Israel ended the war now, Hamas would still be at the same strength as they were in 2007. How pathetic is the Israeli army? They are nothing but _bullies_. They can beat up shopkeepers in the West Bank. Snipe children in Gaza. But are incapable of taking out Hamas or rescuing the hostages. How pathetic.

The deal on the table is a workable one. But its clear that people like Babale don’t want peace. They want the pain and the misery to continue. It isn’t about security. Its about revenge.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/716 "2025-07-01T09:35:25Z")

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The idea that it’s only an atrocity if it’s explicitly ordered is such a pathetic and self serving lie that it makes me feel sorry for you. What must it be like to be so unwilling and unable to even consider hard truths?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/717 "2025-07-01T12:56:43Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> And yet: it sounds like they haven’t touched Hamas _at all_. Babale will have you believe that if Israel ended the war now, Hamas would still be at the same strength as they were in 2007. How pathetic is the Israeli army? They are nothing but _bullies_. They can beat up shopkeepers in the West Bank. Snipe children in Gaza. But are incapable of taking out Hamas or rescuing the hostages. How pathetic.

Lol! Lmao even!

I know you’re still coping and seething over the whomping the IDF gave your last great hope, the IRGC. Your precious Axis of Rapesistence crumbled like a house of cards, with none of the terrorists you love so much - the Houthis, Hezbollah, or Hamas - able to assist in any meaningful way.

Assad is gone, Hezbollah is in such shambles that even the Lebanese army is actually able to assert itself again. and Iran is a complete and total paper tiger.

So cope and seethe as much as you like. Iran’s meddling is over; the greatest barrier to the Palestinian acceptance of a two state solution had fallen.

I’m sure that terrifies you, because if the Palestinians ever come to the table without demanding full right of return, they might actually get a state in Gaza and the West Bank; the dream of Palestine being free (of Jews) from the River to the Sea will be dead and buried; and your precious decolonization project will be over.

It would be much better for the Palestinian _people_, of course, but you’ve never given a flying fuck about them. They’re just a toll to badger the “imperialist, colonialist West” to you and to people like you, such as the Ayatollah.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/718 "2025-07-01T13:20:03Z")

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…Babale lives in a fantasy world.

He says that the IRGC was my last, great hope.

I don’t even know who or what the fuck the IRGC is.

Israel is committing genocide. I want them to stop. That’s it. If you think I have an agenda beyond that I challenge you to read my posts on Gaza from the start and prove it.

What terrifies me is that Israel isn’t going to stop. And what disgusts me is the obvious pleasure that people like Babale and Whack-a-Mole take in the death and destruction. So I’m going to continue to do what I’m doing. And every time Babale posts disinformation here I’m going to point it out.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/719 "2025-07-01T14:10:05Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> I don’t even know who or what the fuck the IRGC is.

If you don’t know who the fucking Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is, maybe you should shut the fuck up about things you clearly don’t understand at even the most basic level? Fucking moron.

“I don’t know who one of the most central parties in this conflict even _is_” is not the flex you think it is.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/720 "2025-07-01T14:23:35Z")

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Whether something is an atrocity is relevant, and whether the government conducting the war approves of atrocities is also relevant. And yes, sometimes atrocities happen even when the government involved has the best of intentions. And do you know what happens then? The people who committed the atrocities get arrested and imprisoned for a long time, at the least.

When atrocities happen, and everyone can see them happening, and the government in charge of the perpetrators just gives them an official censure, that means that the government in charge approves of atrocities.

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