# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/861 "2025-07-27T16:36:29Z")
Further quoting NonZionist for truth: > International condemnation of Israel is based on an assumption that the countries making the condemnation will never be faced with a military situation like that which Israel faces in Gaza. Zionists perceive this and it strikes them as very unfair, but it’s overwhelmingly likely that they are simply correct. There really aren’t any conceivable circumstances whereby any western country will be faced with a situation where they have two million people in a small area right on their border who are mostly hostile and ruled by a terrorist militia. It’s really unrealistic for Zionists to ask for a special exemption from international norms just because they decided to stick their foot into a hornets’ nest. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/862 "2025-07-27T16:39:29Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > It’s really unrealistic for Zionists to ask for a special exemption from international norms just because they decided to stick their foot into a hornets’ nest. Because famously, the rest of the world has always been super friendly and welcoming to Jews 🙄 Things definitely worked out _much_ better for the Bundists than the Zionists. They didn’t stick their feet in anything! ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/863 "2025-07-27T17:33:43Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Things definitely worked out _much_ better for the Bundists than the Zionists. They didn’t stick their feet in anything! The Bundists believed that Jewish safety would be best assured and Jewish culture could best flourish in the context of multi-ethnic liberal democracies. My view from America is that they were/are right. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/864 "2025-07-27T17:49:13Z")
Don’t get sucked into Babale’s game of distract/divert. He’s more than happy to talk about Bundists or militias, or anything other than the ongoing atrocities. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/865 "2025-07-27T17:49:31Z")
Herzl’s original idea, that Jews needed a State of their own in order to protect themselves from anti-Semitism, is certainly defensible based on the realities of the late nineteenth century. Where the Zionists went off the rails IMO was a couple generations later, when they decided that it was crucial that that State had to be located in one particular place, based on the prophecies of a religion none of them actually believed in. They should have found someplace where the native population was sparse, didn’t share a ethno-religious bond with a fifth of humanity, and weren’t already culturally predisposed to anti-Semitism. (The faction of the Zionist movement that rejected literal Zion-ism were called “territorialists”). Of course, in the modern age of WMD’s, Herzl’s argument that the best way to keep the Jews safe is to gather them all together in one tiny geographic area no longer makes any sense at all. I actually really like the “Non-Zionist” label, because Zionism is fucked, but calling yourself an “Anti-Zionist” implies that you either support the ethnic cleansing of Jews or believe that a liberal democratic one-State solution is a realistic short-term option, neither of which applies to me. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/866 "2025-07-27T18:05:22Z")
I don’t think Babale’s a monster – at some point it will sink in and he’ll feel ashamed (I think). I just don’t know if that will be days or weeks or years from now. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/867 "2025-07-27T19:28:24Z")
I agree with this. For me personally, I was very much inclined to give Israel all the benefits of the doubt at the beginning. If they said they had to bomb the hospital because it was really a Hamas base, OK, I’ll believe them. Over the last few months, they’ve lost that benefit of the doubt. It turns out they were just bombing hospitals and shooting starving Gazans trying to get food. Hamas wasn’t actually stealing the aid, so that reason to withhold it was bullshit. Over and over, it turned out that the situation on the ground was much worse that Israel let on, and much worse than it could be if Israel allowed sufficient food and medical aid. It’s insanity. This thread, of course, was about the pretty useless bombing of Iran, also egged on by Israel’s current leadership. Man, Bibi really wants to stay out of jail! ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/868 "2025-07-27T21:38:49Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Because famously, the rest of the world has always been super friendly and welcoming to Jews 🙄 More welcoming than to Palestinians. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/869 "2025-07-27T22:00:09Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > I actually really like the “Non-Zionist” label, because Zionism is fucked, but calling yourself an “Anti-Zionist” implies that you either support the ethnic cleansing of Jews or believe that a liberal democratic one-State solution is a realistic short-term option, neither of which applies to me. I don’t have a snappy label for my position, which is “There has to be a better way, because this just isn’t working.” ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/870 "2025-07-28T01:30:45Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > If they said they had to bomb the hospital because it was really a Hamas base, OK, I’ll believe them. > > Over the last few months, they’ve lost that benefit of the doubt. …I’m not intending to pick on you. Because it isn’t just about you. But I just don’t get it. Revisiting the discussion back in November 2023 that was just posted, I don’t understand why anyone would give them the benefit of the doubt for so long. That when they claimed “they had to bomb the hospital because it was really a Hamas base” you would _just believe them_. Because they did much, much more than just “bomb a few hospitals.” On the dope, I spent a considerable amount of time tracking what Israel did to each of the hospitals. You can go back and read it. I’d document how Israel would systematically put a hospital under siege for a few days or weeks. Then they would _raid_ that hospital, damaging key infrastructure, abducting members of staff, kicking everyone out, then abandoning that hospital. And they would do this over and over again, sometimes returning to hospitals multiple times. Did none of this trigger your spidey sense at all? Not when they deliberately set Al Shifa on fire after they left? > **[Six months of war leave Al-Shifa hospital in ruins, WHO mission reports](https://www.who.int/news/item/06-04-2024-six-months-of-war-leave-al-shifa-hospital-in-ruins--who-mission-reports)** > > A WHO-led multi-agency mission accessed Al-Shifa Hospital in north Gaza on 5 April to conduct a preliminary assessment of the extent of destruction and identify needs to guide future efforts to restore the facility. The highly complex mission was... [https://www.npr.org/2024/04/06/1243045199/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-israel-raid-before-aftermath](https://www.npr.org/2024/04/06/1243045199/al-shifa-hospital-gaza-israel-raid-before-aftermath) Israel claimed they killed 200 “terrorists” and capture 900 “terrorists” without killing a single civilian in that raid that lasted weeks…and only a single IDF soldier died. In order to buy that premise, you would have to believe that over a thousand Hamas terrorists just decided to “hang out” at a hospital under siege instead of escaping the moment it was clear the hospital was going to be a target. That these thousands of terrorists that mostly weren’t _weren’t armed_. Because _this_ is the extent of the evidence the IDF provided: > **[IDF uncovers weapons cache in Gaza Al-Shifa Hospital's Maternity Ward and MRI...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBxoMrNwYnY%2F)** > > The Israeli military discovered a slew of weapons and money hidden inside Gaza’s largest hospital, including in bathrooms and the maternity ward, after a gun... There was this incident: > **[Abandoned babies found decomposing in Gaza hospital weeks after it was evacuated](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/abandoned-babies-found-decomposing-gaza-hospital-evacuated-rcna127533)** > > “No child should have to die alone,” a charity said in response to a widely shared TV report that has sent shockwaves on social media. > [@](#): > > Seen in a video that moves through the abandoned and disarrayed hallways of the pediatric intensive care unit at Al-Nasr Children’s Hospital in northern Gaza were several babies whose unattended bodies lay on separate hospital beds. A blurred version of the video was shared widely on social media this week, a grim and graphic contrast to other scenes of families reunited as hostages and prisoners were freed. > > In a piece he reported, Mohammed Baalousha, a journalist with the Emirati TV channel Al-Mashhad, [said he found](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl2BkqcZIHA) the decomposing infants when he entered the pediatric ICU in the health facility in Gaza City. The hospital’s staff and critically ill patients were forced to evacuate in early November as the Israeli military focused its ground assault on the city, with hospitals under fire. That happened in December 2023. You still gave them the benefit of the doubt after that? Or that time they assassinated Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya’s son. They had briefly detained Dr Safiya and while they did that a drone shot and killed his son in the hospital. Then the IDF raided the hospital again, abducted Dr Safiya and has been “beaten, starved, and isolated” ever since. > **[Israel brutally detaining Gaza hospital director as ‘bargaining chip'](https://www.972mag.com/hussam-abu-safiya-israeli-detention/)** > > Held without charge for 7 months, Dr. Hussam Abu Safiya has been beaten, starved, isolated, and cut off from his family. His freedom is nowhere in sight. They didn’t lose your benefit of the doubt, then? There was the time that this happened: > **[A man with his hands bound urged a Gaza hospital to evacuate. Hours later, he...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-nasser-hospital-man-shot-dead-evacuation-warning-rcna139978)** > > While a full picture of the events leading up to his death remains unclear, NBC News has been able to piece together much of Jamal Aldin Muhammed Jamal Abu Al-Ola's final hours. > [@](#): > > Dressed in a white hazmat suit, his hands bound with plastic cable ties and a yellow cloth tied around his head, Jamal Aldin Muhammed Jamal Abu Al-Ola’s appearance surprised onlookers when he walked into the [Nasser Hospital](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-nasser-hospital-surrounded-israeli-troops-idf-war-doctor-rcna135691)complex in the Gazan city of [Khan Younis](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/dozens-deaths-reported-khan-younis-israel-deepens-ground-offensive-wes-rcna135070). > > Allegedly dispatched as a messenger by the Israeli military, which was conducting operations around the hospital, he was filmed several times as he walked around the facility and inside the hospital where thousands of people had sought shelter from Israeli bombardment. Several witnesses told NBC News he warned people to evacuate the area. > > Less than two hours later, he was shot dead. I watched that one happen in real time. He was alive one minute, walking around. The next minute, he was being mourned by his mother. He was shot dead in front of her. We can go through each and every one of the attacks here: > **[Timeline of the Gaza Strip healthcare collapse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Gaza_Strip_healthcare_collapse)** > > During the Gaza war, the healthcare system of Gaza was destroyed by Israeli attacks on hospitals and health facilities, killing of healthcare workers, and blockade of medical supplies from entering Gaza. The resulting collapse of the healthcare system was part of a broader humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip caused by the war. I challenged Babale to do that earlier, they declined. Because let’s be quite clear here: _the scale of atrocities committed here are off the charts_. And we all just pretended it wasn’t happening. South Africa gathered the evidence for genocide for the International Court of Justice back _in December 2023_. The ICJ directed Israel to “allow sufficient humanitarian aid into Gaza, ordered the State of Israel **to prevent and punish direct incitement of genocide, and to take all measures within its power to prevent acts of genocide in Gaza** ” _in January, 2024._ Why were we still giving Israel the benefit of the doubt right up until a couple of months ago? Again: this isn’t directed at you. It’s an open question to _everyone_ here. I noticed the shift around a couple of months ago as well. But I just don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/871 "2025-07-28T01:49:16Z")
Honestly, I wasn’t following it that closely. The threads here got so contentious that I stopped reading them really early on. I mostly get my news from here and the NY Times. Maybe it was a few months ago that the Times finally started reporting negative news about what Israel was up to in a more direct way. Anyway, the evidence is really inescapable now. I’m sure it has been that way for some time, but it’s getting out more broadly. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/872 "2025-07-28T03:57:28Z")
I followed it more closely then. Honestly, I’m worn out. It’s just too depressing. And I don’t believe there’s anything i can do to stop Israel. I don’t think they give a shit what American Jews think. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/873 "2025-07-28T10:36:55Z")
I agree with everything you just said. Except… they _do_ give a shit what American Jews think. They are furious we don’t obey them without question and march in lockstep with them. They have accused us of being antisemitic, dupes, supporters of terrorism, supporters of Hamas, bad Jews, and not “true” or “real” Jews for daring to question Israel. Zero sympathy for the American Jewish blood shed due to blowback from Israel’s actions. Nothing but “See! See! The world hates you, you need to move here to this last haven (which is bombed so frequently bomb shelters are mandated for every home and bus stop) and join our fight!” _Fuck_ their fight - I will not commit crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, or genocide for a country that has never been mine and I have no interest in even visiting, much less living in. But if you aren’t an American Jew that doesn’t affect you at all. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/874 "2025-07-28T11:21:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I don’t think Babale’s a monster – at some point it will sink in and he’ll feel ashamed (I think). Much more likely, once the genocide is complete he’ll try to pretend it never happened and avoid mentioning the Palestinians ever existed. That’s the usual pattern with genocide; after it’s complete, willful cultural amnesia. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/875 "2025-07-28T12:24:55Z")
It’s not just American Jews. Israeli Jews are also getting fed up and ignored (gift link): [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/28/world/middleeast/israel-dissent-war-gaza.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.Z08.Dxgu.lNWBqVQUsMGh&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/28/world/middleeast/israel-dissent-war-gaza.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Z08.Dxgu.lNWBqVQUsMGh&smid=url-share) Headline: " ‘Revenge Is Not a Policy’: Israelis Voice Dissent Against the War in Gaza" Sub-headline: “After a long silence, prominent Israelis and activists are increasingly raising alarms about potential war crimes being carried out by the government.” Edit, here’s another article, this one about Israeli rights groups calling what the government is doing genocide: [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/28/world/middleeast/israel-genocide-gaza-rights-groups.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/28/world/middleeast/israel-genocide-gaza-rights-groups.html) > The two groups were B’Tselem, a rights monitor that documents the effects of Israeli policies on Palestinians, and Physicians for Human Rights — Israel. Their announcement was the first time major Israeli rights groups have publicly concluded that the Gaza war is a genocide, an assessment previously reached by some organizations like Amnesty International. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/876 "2025-07-28T12:39:56Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > It’s not just American Jews. Israeli Jews are also getting fed up and ignored (gift link): Well, sure - it’s just that I feel a lot more comfortable discussing the viewpoint of American Jews, being one myself, than the viewpoint of Israeli Jews which I am much less informed about. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/877 "2025-07-28T12:42:21Z")
I guess I’m just pointing out that Babale is increasingly becoming an outlier among non-crazy-conservative Jews everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/878 "2025-07-28T13:04:08Z")
> Ehud Olmert … decried … the ‘cruel and criminal killing of civilians’…. Moshe Yaalon, a former … defense minister, has warned for months of ethnic cleansing. Yair Golan, a former deputy chief of the military … said the government was killing babies ‘as a hobby.’ [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/28/world/middleeast/israel-dissent-war-gaza.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.Z08.cE1D.xiJH2iiCi6Hs&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/28/world/middleeast/israel-dissent-war-gaza.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Z08.cE1D.xiJH2iiCi6Hs&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare) Olmert, Yaalon, and Golan see it, at least to some degree… How long will it be for our resident knee-jerk IDF defenders to see it? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/879 "2025-07-28T13:13:09Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I guess I’m just pointing out that Babale is increasingly becoming an outlier among non-crazy-conservative Jews everywhere. And your cite for this is fucking Betzelem? Rofl my fucking ass off, if you think they represent any kind of mainstream, you’re high off your ass. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Ehud Olmert … decried … the ‘cruel and criminal killing of civilians’…. Moshe Yaalon, a former … defense minister, has warned for months of ethnic cleansing. Yair Golan, a former deputy chief of the military … said the government was killing babies ‘as a hobby.’ I’m sure if I only quoted you two words at a time, I’d be able to paint any kind of narrative I wanted to also. Golan has gone through endless shit because of that comment, which he has explained many many _many_ times was referring to Netanyahu’s policies and not the IDF’s behavior. But that doesn’t stop dishonest pricks from misquoting him. Honestly, Golan is amazingly based, but his biggest flaw is that he doesn’t think enough about how his words get twisted by people who aren’t Israeli and don’t have his context. If he’s going to rise higher in Israeli politics, and I very much hope he does, he needs to start thinking a little more about that. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/880 "2025-07-28T13:13:31Z")
Olmert, Yaalon, and Golan are probably all antisemites who don’t think Israel should have the right to defend itself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=45)